On 5th September, 1976, George de Mohrenschildt wrote the following letter to George H. W. Bush:

Dear George,

You will excuse this hand-written letter. Maybe you will be able to bring a solution to the hopeless situation I find myself in.

My wife and I find ourselves surrounded by some vigilantes; our phone bugged; and we are being followed everywhere. Either FBI is involved in this or they do not want to accept my complaints. We are driven to insanity by the situation.

I have been behaving like a damn fool ever since my daughter Nadya died from (cystic fibrosis) over three years ago. I tried to write, stupidly and unsuccessfully, about Lee H Oswald and must have angered a lot of people I do not know. But to punish an elderly man like myself and my highly nervous and sick wife is really too much.

Could you do something to remove the net around us? This will be my last request for help and I will not annoy you any more.

Good luck in your important job.

Thank you so much.

George de Mohrenschildt

Several questions are raised by this letter:

1. Who had he been talking to about Oswald?

2. What had he been saying?

3. Why should he contact the director of the CIA about this?

Russ Baker answers these questions beginning with his subtitle "From One George to Another" at page 268.

I am not sure he does. Russ Baker writes about George de Mohrenschildt's meetings with Willem Oltmans. However, those meetings began in February 1977. De Mohrenschildt's letter is dated September 1976.

He does say that Jeanne and George de Mohrenschildt divorced in 1974. She claimed that "a doctor had appeared in Dallas for a brief period and administered injections to him. Following those injections, she said, George suffered a nervous breakdown, at which point she decided to have him hospitalized. The doctor, she claimed, vanished into thin air." p. 271. Above that quote, on the same page it says that she signed the commitment papers on November 9, 1976. The quoted passage cites an article by Jim Marrs in the Fort Worth evening Star Telegram, May 11, 1978 with a headline entitled "Widow Disputes Suicide."

One could almost assume the doctor appeared in response to the letter?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread409512/pg4

“Sep. 1976, Sergei [sic] DeMohrenschildt was subjected to nine electro-shock treatments at Parkland Hospital under orders given by Doctor DeLoach …first cousin of FBI Assistant Director Cartha ‘Deke’ DeLoach. DeMohrenschildt’s doctor of record’, Dr. Mendoza, ordered administration of intravenous drugs on DeMohrenschildt being committed to Parkland Hospital for mental problems’ but, it was DeLoach that ordered electro-shock therapy. This occurred when George Bush was Director of Central Intelligence …and, within weeks of DeMohrenschildt having written a manuscript, entitled, I Am A Patsy! I Am A Patsy! …which named names of various CIA and FBI personnel who framed Oswald to cover their tracks in JFK’s assassination."
...
“DeMohrenshieldt’s wife told Jim Marrs, a Dallas reporter, ‘He must have still harbored guilt feelings about his work for Germans during World War II, because he told me, ‘It’s Jews, they’ve caught up with me,’” Grodin said.
In 1964, a CIA report states, ‘[George's daughter] Alexandra was being monitored by CIA’s James Jesus Angleton because she was having an affair with Mohammed al Fayed shortly after JFK assassination.’ James Jesus Angleton’s name is signed at bottom of that 41 page report. Under his signature is that of CIA asset, Jane Roman. Roman was CIA agent who record shows was charged with monitoring movements of Lee Harvey Oswald for two months preceding assassination.

The above website cites:
"note:Burnham comments on DeMohrenshildt. www.john-f-kennedy.net... "

That cited website actually used information without accreditation from Adamson:
http://ciajfk.com/timeline.html
De M was business partners with Mohamed Al Fayed in 1964. Fayed had an affair with Alexandra de Mohrenschildt and James Angleton of the CIA was interested in this.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=1
This document indicates deM. and Mohammad Abdel Fayed were in contact in Haiti, and that Fayed was traveling under Haitian passport but suspected of having been a member of Egyptian intelligence in 1953 in Saudi Arabia. Also had involvement with Trujillo and possibly Castro.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...ult&id=3708
A Record from Mary Ferrell's Database
Record: FAYED, MOHAMMED (SHEIK)
Sources: FBI 124-10135-10123; FBI 100-32965-306, pp. 2, 6, 28; NW 381-2, 6, 28; Dallas Morning News, Wed., 6/23/99, p. 13-A
Mary's Comments: Oil businessman from Kuwait. Was entertained at dinner by George and Jeanne deMohrenschildt in Haiti in June 1964 while official guest of Haitian Government. It was reported (by a CIA informant ?) that Alexandra deMohrenschildt Gibson, daughter of George deMohrenschildt, while visiting her father in Haiti in December 1964 without her husband, Don, was dating Mohammed Fayed. Fayad purchased Harrods in London in early 1980s. (Fayed's son, Dodi, was killed in an automobile accident in Paris on August 31, 1997 that also killed English Princess Dianna.) Mohammed Fayed repeatedly applied for British citizenship but was denied each time. The last time he applied was Tues., 6/22/99. That time, he won permission to challenge the government's decision refusing him British citizenship. In 1999, Fayad was 66 years old.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...ult&id=4146
A Record from Mary Ferrell's Database
Record: GIBSON, DONALD (MRS.) (ALEXANDRA DEMOHRENSCHILDT)
Sources: WC 26, p. 760; CE 3116; FBI 124-10135-10123; FBI 100-32965-306, p. 18; NW 381-18
Mary's Comments: Jenner says Mr. and Mrs. Gibson are planning to leave Wingdale, NY and move to Florida. While deMohrenschildts were in Haiti, they received a piece of mail with return address: "Alex GIBSON, 701 N.E. 22nd Street, Miami, Florida" postmarked November 19, 1964.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...ult&id=3239
A Record from Mary Ferrell's Database
Record: DEMOHRENSCHILDT, ALEXANDRA ROMEYN (MRS. GARY TAYLOR)
Sources: Warren Report (289, 313); WC 11 (124-153); Kennedy Conspiracy, Flammonde (196); HSCA Vol 12, pp. 92, 95-97; Mary's Comments:
DOB: December 25, 1943. Daughter of George deMohrenschildt and Dorothy Romeyn Pierson. Married to Gary Taylor Nov. 1959. Divorced Taylor April 1963 following birth of son, Curtis Taylor on Feb. 10, 1962. Married to Donald Gibson by 1963. Friend of William Sprott, Attorney, at Tilton home in Florida in 1977. In 1993, owns boutique, Cafa Chic, in Del Ray Beach, FL. In 1994, when Nancy Tilton died, Alexandra sold Cafa Chic and moved to Tubac, AZ, to open a "bed and breakfast" in Nancy's home. The place was called The Secret Garden Inn. In 2001, Alexandra and Giorgio Miola sold the inn to people who converted it to a private residence. Alexandra and Giorgio moved to Green Valley, AZ. In April 2002, her address is: 1411 W. Via Del Petirrojo, Green Valley, AZ 85614-5013

(microfilm)/HSCA Segregated CIA Collection (microfilm - reel 5: Conte - De Mohrenschildt)/
NARA Record Number: 1994.04.25.14:03:32:190005 indicates connections between De Mohrenschildt and Fayed:
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=547876
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=547943
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=548076

“Sep. 1976, Sergei [sic] DeMohrenschildt was subjected to nine electro-shock treatments at Parkland Hospital under orders given by Doctor DeLoach …first cousin of FBI Assistant Director Cartha ‘Deke’ DeLoach. DeMohrenschildt’s doctor of record’, Dr. Mendoza, ordered administration of intravenous drugs on DeMohrenschildt being committed to Parkland Hospital for mental problems’ but, it was DeLoach that ordered electro-shock therapy. This occurred when George Bush was Director of Central Intelligence …and, within weeks of DeMohrenschildt having written a manuscript, entitled, I Am A Patsy! I Am A Patsy! …which named names of various CIA and FBI personnel who framed Oswald to cover their tracks in JFK’s assassination."

Dr. DeLoach
Dr. Mendoza

Have these guys ever turned up in any MKULTRA intriques?

I'm also drawn to the US Army Inspector Generals Report on the Use of Human Subject in Chemical Agent Research, which lists Army contracts with affiliated institutions and doctors.

DeMohrenschildt's manuscript is extremely important, not only in giving us DeMohrenschildt's presumed mental state and memory at the time, but because of its details of how Oswald came to meet the Paines, supposidly a coincidental hapenstance, and the roles of J. Walton Moore of the CIA's Domestic Contacts Division and retired Adml. Chester Brouton, whose specialty was nuclear sub communications and worked at Collins Radio. (April 10, 1963, Walker/Thresher, and JFCOTT).

"I'm a Patsy!, I'm a Patsy!" is published in its entirity in the HSCA volumes.

Also make note of the fact that the rifle was sent to a PO box in Dallas and Alexandra DeMohrn Taylor and husband were listed on PO box application and may have had access to it.

BK

John-

Has this letter been authenticated in any way?

Have you seen a copy of it?

Was it produced in response to a FOIA request?

The proximity in time of his death and the deaths of Giancana, Roselli, Hoffa and others are a little too coincidental to be unrelated. Hoffa's disappearance preceded the existence of the HSCA, but the others didn't.

They are kind of like the "suicide" of Abe "Kid Twist" Reles, a mob informer, about 50 years earlier. Not many people think he voluntarily exited the window of the high-rise apartment where he was being held in protective custody.

Thanks.

Chris

Yes it is genuine. This is an internal memo where Bush's refers to this letter (I have corrected his spelling):


I do know this man DeMohrenschildt.

I first met him in the early 40s. He was an uncle to my Andover roommate.

Later he surfaced in Dallas (50's maybe).

He got involved in some controversial dealings in Haiti.

Then he surfaced when Oswald shot to prominence. He knew Oswald before the assassination of President Kennedy.

I don't recall his role in all this.

At one time he had/or spent plenty of money.

I have not heard from him for many years until the attached letter came in.

Busy George HW Bush....rooming at Phillips Academy Andover, MA with George de Mohrenschildt's
brother Dimitri's stepson, Edward G. Hooker, then serving in Hooker's wedding party, and finally,
escorting the late Edward G. Hooker's daughter, (Dmitri's step grand-daughter) down the aisle on
the occasion of her marriage into a sugar plantation owning family.....

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...c.do?docId=5761
(file containing) LETTER TO DCI BUSH FROM DEMOHRENSCHILDT

Link to display of handwritten, Sept. 5, 1976 letter from DEMOHRENSCHILDT to DCI Bush:
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=30

http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/...t_Investigation
The Last Investigation

by Gaeton Fonzi
Publisher: Mary Ferrell Foundation Press

Bush had indeed met de Mohrenschildt, and had the man's nephew for a roommate at Andover. See also a draft reply with attachments, and Bush's reply to de Mohrenschildt of 28 Sep 1976.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...c.do?docId=4470




http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...78AD85F438385F9
MRS. W.C.H.HOOKER HAS HOME WEDDING; Russian Orthodox Ceremony Unites Her to Dimitri S. von Mohrenschildt.

January 20, 1937, Wednesday

The marriage of Mrs. Winifred Cartwright Holhan Hooker, daughter of Mrs. Francis Holhan of 950 Park Avenue, to Dimitri Sergius von Mohrenschildt took place yesterday afternoon at the home of the bride's mother.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...78ED85F428485F9
David Berns

May 24, 1946, Friday

Section: Amusements, Page 13, 318 words

The marriage of Miss Marion Therese Butler, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. John Bryant Butler of Riverdale, to Edward Gordon Hooker, son of Mrs. Dimitri S. de Mohrenachildt of New York and of Roland Mather Hooker of Miami Beach, Fla., took place yesterday morning in the rectory of St. Patrick's Cathedral.

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=Mrs...=1&ie=UTF-8
MARION T. BUTLER BECOMES A BRIDE; She Is Wed to Edward Gordon Hooker,...
- New York Times - May 24, 1946
... to Edward Gordon Hooker, son of Mrs. Dimitri S. de Mohrenachildt of New York ... The ushers were George Herbert Walker Bush of Greenwich, Conn. and John ...

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=edw...=1&ie=UTF-8
EDWARD G. HOOKER, EX-STOCKBROKER, 43
- New York Times - Mar 30, 1967
Edward Gordon Hooker, a stockbroker formerly with E.F. Hutton Co., died yesterday in his home at 1160 Park Avenue, apparently of a heart attack. ...

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=Bel...=1&ie=UTF-8
Deaths
New York Times - Mar 30, 1967
Beloved husband of Marian (Bub by) Hooker, loving father of Mergarlt C. end Suzanne B., devoted son of Wlnifred Carfwright Hooker end the lele Roland Mother

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=mis...=1&ie=UTF-8
Miss Suzanne B. Hooker Married to Ames Braga
- New York Times - Sep 14, 1973
... a daughter of Mrs. Edward-Gordon Hooker of New York and the late Mr. Hooker, ... The bridegroom s parents are Mr. and Mrs. B . Rionda Braga of Alpine, ...

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=mis...=1&ie=UTF-8
Miss Suzanne B. Hooker Married to Ames Braga
- New York Times - Sep 14, 1973
George H. W. Bush, chair of the Republican National Committee, escorted the bride, who-had her sister, Mrs. Alberto Mejia, as matron of honor and Miss Susan ...

....and post #35 in the Camarillo Ranch thread:

Great work, Tom!

See if you can figure out the relationship between Edward Gordon Hooker's mother and the Marguerite/Margaret Williams who left money to George deMohrenschildt in her will and helped get him a job with Humble Oil.

Linda, thank you!

I cannot find a "Margaret", and if she existed, she is not listed in the family plot:



The testimony of George De Mohrenschildt, below, doesn't make much sense to me, in that he did not marry his first wife, (Dorothy) according to the available record, until three years after Marguerite Clark Williams died....so how could "his wife's sister", introduce him to Marguerite?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&saf...amp;btnG=Search



Marguerite Clark, America's Darling of Broadway and the Silent Screen ...


http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22...en&ie=UTF-8
Marguerite Clark Left $365,436
- New York Times - Feb 22, 1941
Marguerite Clark Williams, former star of the silent movies, left an estate valued at $365436.50, a court inventory filed here today showed. ...

Unless there is something here I have not quite grasped?

...and Linda.... this is a longshot....especially with George's disjointed WC testimony describing a "sister-in-law" he didn't have in 1939...



Actor turned director, Walter Edwards, aka "Edward", born in Michigan on Jan. 8, 1870, was Marguerite Clark William's favorite director. Employed at Famous Players-Lasky Paramount studios, Edwards directed her last six "moving pictures", the final one just before his death on April 12, 1920:

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=dir...user_hdate=1920
EDWARDS, DIRECTOR FOR LASKY, IS DEAD.
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Apr 15, 1920
WAS IN HONOLULU FOR HEALTH WHEN END CAME VERY UNEXPECTEDLY.

The next step is to find who Edwards wife was. I don't have access to more than the above description. The odds of the "Mrs. Edwards" in the WC testimony, describing events 19 years after Walter Edwards' death, seem too thin to spend the money to see if Edwards' wife is named in the Proquest Obit.

I've searched 1910 and 1920 US Census records, and Edwards could have lived in NYC in 1910, he worked for Thomas Ince's New York based studios in the early teens, but there is a description of him directing an Ince picture at their Los Angeles location also.

Was Dorothy Pierson, who De MOHRENSCHILDT said he met in Palm Beach in 1941 or 1942, and married in 1943, his first wife, as I assume?

One area that I may be able to provide some information is in reference to an earlier post by Tom.
I cannot find a "Margaret", and if she existed, she is not listed in the family plot:
But isn't that her below, or did I miss something?
http://files.usgwarchives.org/la/orleans/c...ie/00000096.txt
Frank B. Williams Mausoleum, section 97 Metairie Cemetery, Orleans Parish, Louisiana
Margaret Swift Hooker Williams Jan. 5, 1906 - June 18, 1974

Then there is the following, I do not know if it is the same person, and I was only able to post what I read from the google snippet view, or else I would have posted more info.......
On March 21, 1928, at Larchmont, New York, Laurence Moore Williams married the former Miss Margaret Swift Hooker, daughter of Kenneth Russell Hooker
and Bessie (Johnson) Hooker
this material was gleaned from a book entitled
The Story of Louisiana - E. A. Davis - J.F. Hyer Publishing Co., 1960 pertinent pages 240, 581.
Google Snippet View
http://books.google.com/books?id=XU0TAAAAY...oker&pgis=1
All of this material reminds me of Bruce Campbell Adamson, who covered a lot of the same material but his stuff is a little erratic, unless you buy his footnotes along with his 10 or 11 Volumes of DeMohrenschildt material, I suppose........
anyone remember Adamson's titles such as the one below
Vol 6. Allen Dulles' Paine Must be Let Luce......lol

And the Warren Commission Documents, in this case are very pertinent
Betty Cartwright Hooker WC Vol 9 178, 195-199
Edward Hooker WC Vol 9 178, 195-199
Mrs. Marion Hooker WC Vol 9 178, 195-199

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...absPageId=18986

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...absPageId=19006

As Rachel Maddow might say, the following items are from the fun facts to know and tell Department.
The latter part is more for entertainment purposes, and it is anything but dull.......

The Dallas Morning News of November 16, 1950 featured a blurb dateline ABILENE, Texas, which read as follows:
Stephens Location
Special To the News
Hooker & De Mohrenschildt No. 1 Trammell is a new wildcat 900 from the south and 640 from the east lines of the SW/4 of 23-7-T&P, twelve miles south of Breckenridge, in Stephens County. Projected depth is 4,250 feet.

1977 CBS report on Oltmans & De Mohrenschildt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kCCmkkYymU


Got Democracy?

Additionally, when searching a subject like the DeMohrenschildt family, which covers a very broad time chronology, the mary ferrell archives contain a timeline, which, is indispensible in my opinion.....
The Links are below.

The mary ferrell chronologies begin in the year 1818
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=1

and continue until August 31, 1966
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=485915

The Mexico City Chronologies begin on August 20, 1963 and continue until October 4, 1963
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=485916

Index page to Mary Ferrell Chronologies
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...o?docSetId=1111

There is a thread somewhere on the Forum under the title The Tolstoy Foundation, but I could not find it, I felt this thread was the next best place.
NO TITLE, SUBJECTS: TOLSTOY FOUNDATION, ASSOC, DONATIOR
October 26, 1948
Margaret C. McQuilken of Salt Lake City, Utah, employed by the Treasury Dept., Salt Lake City
made available literatire from The Tolstoy Foundation, 289 Fourth Avenue, National Headquarters at NewYork 10, New York
Honorable Herbert Hoover, Honorary Chairman
Alexandra Tolstoy, President
Executive Officers
Countess Sophia Panina
Dr. Ethan T. Colton
Mrs. Vadim S. Marakoff
Mr. John C. Traphagen Treasurer
Secretaries
Mrs. Stella T. MacNaughten - Corporate Secretary
Mrs. Tatiana A. Schaufuss - Executive Secretary
Mr. Nicholas Cooke, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Paul Anderson
Mr. Alexander A. Paschkoff
Mr. Constantin Pertzoff
Mrs N. Shahovskoy Nabokoff
Mr. Boris V. Sergievsky
Mr. Crawford Wheeler
Mr. Alexis R. Wiren
Directors
Mr. Boris A. Bakhmeteff
Mr. Emile C. Bataille
Mr. A. L. Bryant
Mr. Robert J. Caldwell
Mrs. Kendall Emerson
Prof. Vladimir B. Ipatieff
Miss Helen Iswolsky
Prof. Michael M. Karpovich
Mrs. Marguerite B. Langkjaer
Mr. A. C. Litton
Miss Irene N. Mishtowt
Miss Anna V. S. Mitchell
Dr. Dmitri S.Von Mohrenschildt
Mrs Livingstone P. Moore
Prof. Alexander I. Petrunkevich
Prof. Michael I. Rostovzeff
Mrs. Boris Sergievsky
Mr. Igor I. Sikorsky
Miss Gertrude Robinson Smith
Mr. Ilia Tolstoy
Mr. Peter Zouboff
Mr. Federico I. Zvarico
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=10

Since I have been on the Forum, I have seen many threads come and go........If there was one person I would contend should not be forgotten in this analysis, it would be Mitchell Werbell, he was someone of the very same background as many of the Cold War era persons with a Russian background.....Ask Ron Ecker, who is no slouch when it comes to JFK Research....He is aces, in my book, BTW!
he wrote Our Man In Powder Springs, and could definitely add some lively conversation to this thread.....

I am not sure anyone has posted this information yet, so.....

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=S.+...=1&ie=UTF-8
CHARLES G. MEYER, CIVIC LEADER, DIES; President Since 1910 of Cord Meyer Realty Firm Served Charter Revision Group
- New York Times - Apr 10, 1950
Besides his daughter he leaves sons, Charles G.; Jr., G. Howland--and S. Willets Meyer, and tree brothers, J: Edward, Robert B. and Cord Meyer

MRS. CHARLES G. MEYER; Wife of Cord Meyer Firm Head Active in Queens...
- New York Times - Apr 1, 1939
Also surviving are four children, Mrs. Margaret Ives, Charles G. Jr., G. Howland Meyer and S. Willets , all of New York.
Related web pages

MARION T. BUTLER BECOMES A BRIDE; She Is Wed to Edward Gordon Hooker,...
- New York Times - May 24, 1946
S. . Willets Meyer of New York was best man. The ushers were George Herbert Walker Bush of Greenwich, Conn. and John Clark Burgard of Wash ington, ...

Most likely, the "brother" in the 1950 article is Cord Meyer Sr.

It is likely that Edward Hooker's "best man", was the first cousin of Cord Sr.'s son, Cord Meyer Jr.
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmeyerC.htm

This is probably the obit of Charles G. Meyer's son, and best man S. Willets' brother:
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...DAE0894D9484D81
Charles G. Meyer, 71; A Developer in Queens

(NYT); Obituary

July 13, 1981, Monday

Late City Final Edition, Section D, Page 8, Column 6, 256 words

[ DISPLAYING ABSTRACT ]Charles G. Meyer, former president of the Cord Meyer Company of New York and secretary of the Cord Meyer Development Company, which began developing Forest Hills, Queens, at the turn of the century, died Saturday after a long illness at the Hilaire Nursing Home in Huntington, L.I. Mr. Meyer, ...

Ed Hooker's best man in his 1946 wedding ushered by George HW Bush, is reported in the NY Times as S. Willets Meyer.

Meyer's wife, Lucie Taft (now Lucie Taft Meyer Bard, S. Willets Meyer died circa 1975, Lucie remarried in 1980) is the grand daughter of Charles A. Draper:







Wickliffe Draper was Lucie's uncle.....

Correction to info in last post and an update....

Although the best man in Ed Hooker's 1946 wedding, S. Willets Meyer was married to Lucie Clark Taft who was the daughter of the man married in 1917 to Helen Draper, sister of Wickliffe Draper, Walbridge S. Taft was divorced from Helen Draper before his daughter Lucie, future wife of (S Willets Meyer) was born:



Ed Hooker may not have gotten a mention from George HW Bush in his memoirs, but Bush seems to have spent much time with Ed Hooker, and not only at school in Andover, MA:

Edward Hooker's March 30, 1967 obituary in the NY Times death notices, displays "sudden", next to the details.
The obit itself decribes Hooker as a "former EF Hutton stock broker".
I found the following reference to Hooker and a seat he purchased at a very low price on the NYSE,
and later sold at a nice profit, when "his health started failing"....



When I read that the seller of the NYSE seat to Hooker was a "mining engineer", I searched for possible associations
of James A. Hogel with Everette Lee DeGolyer, McCloy's brother-in-law, Lewis Douglas and Douglas's father, "rawhide Jimmy",
and his grandfather, "James Douglas", and also the brothers George and Dimitri, and I came up with nothing.

More and more, I am being impressed with the very small size of the pond that the very rich and the less rich "society volk" who inhabit
the same environs as the very rich, actually limited themselves to swimming in, especially in the pre-jet age of the pre-1960 era.
It may not be coincidental or unusual enough to arouse a high level of suspicion that "the baron", the Bouviers, the Bushes, Hookers, Meyers, Kennedy's
and many other of these "high society" families knew each other quite well. They all travelled on ocean liners at the same time of year,
attended each others weddings and other social gatherings, and spent winters in the same small, tropical Florida. oceanfront areas.

What remains unusual is that one or some knew Oswald, or were agents or managers in OSS, CIA, ONI, other DOD areas, or in the MIC.

I found another wedding described as including the best man at Ed Hooker's wedding, S. Willets Meyer.
It was the wedding of S. Willets Meyer's first cousin, William, the brother of Cord Meyer Jr.:



After finding that David F. Bartlett, of "Hobo Sound", was the brother of Charles Leffingwell Bartlett, the close friend of JFK and Jackie who attempted to
introduce them to each other, for the very first time, when they were both in attendance at David F. Bartlett's 1949 wedding, I looked into David's brother, Charles
and found that their father, Valentine C. Bartlett, was shot to death at the family's Hobe Sound, aka "Jupiter Island" home in February 1953, that a month later,
Valentine's widow sold the beachfront home and a larger main house to C. Douglas Dillon, that Charles and his wife, Josephine Martha were both included
in the 1953 Kennedy-Bouvier wedding party, that Jospehine Martha was chosen as John Jr.s god mother at his 1960 christenting, and that Charles stood in
at the christening for Jackie's absent brother-in-law and actual god father, and to top it off, this;


....I decided I would soon begin a separate, "Charles Leffingwell Bartlett" thread......

Nice piece of work there, Tom. I have had great difficulty in convincing anyone about the massive significance of the long standing ties between Wickliffe Draper and C. D. Jackson, which go back to that 1924 wedding of William Howard Taft's nephew and Wickliffe Draper's sister when Wickcliffe was an usher or the best man, forget which one. I had to truck it to the Hopedale Public Library and go through decades of newspaper clippings before stumbling onto this little gem. And the fact that Ulius Amoss actually went to work for Frank Wisner at the CIA while still publishing the ISI Foundation's periodical which was discovered by James Richards I think, is another really nice gem. Frank Wisner was ultimately quite chagrined to find out that the CIA stable of programmed assassins were turned against JFK and that he was somehow directly or indirectly responsible.

More and more deleterious information is coming to forefront about Gen. Bonner Fellers, on the masthead of the ISI Foundation, of Ulius Amoss, along with Charles A. Willoughby as well. Hitler called Fellers "our best source of information" and Fellers made the mistake of praising Hitler at a public forum or speech. And MacArthur called Willoughby "My little Fascist" as documented by Dick Russell in TMWKTM. The fact that there were several American Generals who snuck into the service of the U.S. Government whose real allegiances still were with Nazi Germany including Albert C. Wedemeyer and George Stratemeyer, both German born
and raised. Wedemeyer was the suspected source of a security leak regarding the US war plans published by Robert McCormick in the Chicago Tribune. McCormick was a reich-winger, a founder of the America First Committee and also had strong pro-Nazi sympathies along with William Regnery of Regnery Publishers. America First tried to keep the US neutral so Hitler could have his way in Europe.

And never forget that Anastase Vonsiatsky "ran every White Russian spy in North America" according to Charles Higham and that would INCLUDE "George deMohrenschildt". I think that fact was in American Swastika or his other anti-Nazi work.

American Swastika/the Shocking Story of Nazi Collaborators in Our Midst from 1933 to the Present Day by Charles Higham ( 1985)
Chronicles the relationship between Americans and the Nazis from the 1930s to the present, examining the activities of Nazi sympathizers in the U.S. government, the Catholic Church, and other facets of American life.

Though Ulius Amoss died in 1961, his stable of programmed assassins never disappeared into the woodwork, but they were taken over by Ray S. Cline who was also mentioned in The Manchurian Candidate by Richard Condon. Cline was head of WACL during it's most blatant pro-Fascist, Nazi sypmathizer period according to the Washington Post in the 1980's. It was Cline and Robert Emmett Johnson who did in JFK and MLK plus the Archbishop in South America for WACL.

Cline was in Taiwan (in the Pink Palace) when Lee Harvey Oswald was there, he was in Tsingtao and/or Mukden when Robert Emmett Johnson was there (probably being programmed Manchurian Candiate style), and Cline was also in the Phillippines when Benito Acquino was assassinated, (circa 1983?) according to a career foreign diplomat who married into my family.

The way that the Manchurian Candidate styled techniques used on the Japanese Kamikaze pilots in Harbin, Manchuria made its way into mainstream Reich Wing extremist hands was via Dr. Hans J. Eysenck of both The Pioneer Fund of Wickliffe Draper and the MKULTRA projects of the Angletons, the Grays, the Drapers and the Bushes. He was the only person invovled with both sides of the fence and he was a dedicated Nazi sympathizer as well. The fact that these techniques were likely used on both the PLO bombers and the 911 pilots is a sad testament to the fact that "what goes around comes around". The CIA should have just buried and burned the training manuals for Manchurian Candidate programming. Instead the Genie is out of the bottle for good (and for evil, of course.)

So it can finally be stated that the Eugenics based Draper influenced pro-Nazi Fascist sympathizers mentioned in The Manchurian Candidate by Richard Condon (written in 1958) were behind the entire plot to kill JFK. They also used C.D. Jackson to purchase and alter the Zapruder Film for Life Magazine, and relied upon professional pro-Fascist scapegoaters who also appeared in The Manchurian Candidate like Dr. Revilo P. Oliver and Rev. Gerald L K Smith to obliterate the Trail of the Assassins and to concoct alternative scenarios in order to deflect attention from the actual perps.

Oswald was in fact another programmed Manchurian Candiate assassin just like Robert Emmett Johnson, but he still could never have made the kill shots from the Depository. Oswald was chosen as the "perfect patsy" because his presence in the plot would force the U.S. Government to go along with the entire cover-up for fear of exposing the roles of the likes of James Angleton, Carleton Coon, Allen Dulles, Ulius Amoss, Charles Willoughby, Bonner Fellers, Ray S. Cline, Robert J. Morris and others in MKULTRA or Operation Bluebird, and several other assassinations against foreign leaders who were inimical to the interests of the USA.

Side note: Is it possible that the Frank Wisner and Cord Meyer suicides were as a direct result of being drawn into either the actual JFK plot against their wills, or as a result of discovering who the actual killers were and not being able to do anything about it either before or after the fact? My naivete might be showing here, but even though JFK allegedly slept with Cord Meyer's wife, I can not fathom why Cord Meyer would voluntarily participate in an anti-JFK plot. And even though Frank Wisner had some serious Mississippi family and corporate ties, I can not see him willingly plotting against JFK either. But I could be wrong on this score.

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John,

As much as I hate to admit it, this time I gotta compliment you for a great post. Very informative, fairly concise, and no ranting to speak of which, "considering the source," is quite refreshing, actually. Somewhat like the proverbial breath of fresh air. (LOL) I particulary like the excerpt I'm posting in this here reply. Keep up the good work.

--Thomas

One of my specialties is the extended, meandering, disconnected, rant. Must be slipping.

"We get too soon olllldt and too late schmaarrrttt!" - as my Grandfather used to say.

By the way, I hate those frigging stupid emoticons.

Did anybody notice that almost the entire list above shared one thing in common?

James Angleton, Allen Dulles, Ulius Amoss, Charles Willoughby, Bonner Fellers, Ray S. Cline, Robert J. Morris

Take a guess before peeking down below the margin....
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They were all somehow or another ignominiously embarrassed, fired, released, relieved of duty, exposed or
otherwise castigated and then separated from their US Government jobs as total pariahs. Does that mean they
decided to use all the tools and tricks of the trade they learned to get back at JFK and the US Gov using MKULTRA, Mind
Control, blackmail, and military tactics, weapons, subterfuges, intelligence and agents trained in assassination and covert
ops by our own government?

Why of course it does. It must.

John (is that your real name?), You're Welcome. You know how much I love complimenting you.

John (is that really yourl name???), have you ever posted on other websites that Alvin Beubouef was an "agent" of the so-called (White Russian) Soldarists ?

Yours,
--Tommy O'Mochain (biolgical name; what's yours, really?)

We can all just cut to the quick when we consider the most pertinent, yet almost always overlooked facts about George deM:

(1) His wife, Jeanne, was born in "Harbin, Manchuoko, Manchuria" during the White Russian Czarists exile and diaspora,
where "The Count" Anastase "Annie" Vonsiatsky had his anti-Communist Headquarters for decades. See "The Russian
Fascists" by John J. Stephan (Little, Brown 1979) See chapter on "The Manchurian Mafia" and others. Vonsiatsky "sent"
both suicide mission assassins ("programmed assassins?") and trained bombers into Russia for several decades to murder
various communist party officers and commisars. He is also credited with formulating the "Manchurian Candidate" training
recipe that crated the "Kamikaze Pilots" used by the Japanese. After all, Harbin, Manchuoko was occupied by the
Japanese for a period maybe encapsulating the 1930's and some of the 1940's. (not positive of the timespan)

(2) According to John Higham in American Swastika, Vonsiatsky "ran" every single White Russian spy in North
America for decades. While living in Thompson, CT near Putnam, CT and his near his close fiend Wickliffe Draper in
Hopedale, MA (only 25 miles as the crow flies from his home) he often entertained foreign guests who were members
of the German American Bund and the White Russian Solidarist community.

(3) George deMohrenschildt's cousin, a Baron Constantine de Maydell was arrested as a "Nazi" spy during WW-II
and served some serious jail time. They were both "White Russian" pro-Czarist fascists in the mold of Vonsiatsky.
Vonsiatsky was convicted by prosecutor Thomas J. Dodd of violations of The Espionage Act of 1917 and went to
the Federal Pen for 4-5 years (circa 1942-1946), the same place where General Edwin A. Walker went after The
American Insurrection in Oxford, Mississippi in the early 1960's.

(4) By inference, Vonsiatsky "ran" deMohrenschildt and would have been well known to both Jeanne and George
due to the fact that he was one of the 2-3 most important White Russians in Harbin during that entire period.

(5) Vonsiatsky was "The Manchurian Candidate" of Richard Condon fame and appeared in an anagram:

"...known as Yaztas, Fravashi and Amesha Spentas." Yeah, I know, another anagram...

...which translates to: "Tzar Anastase Vonsiatsky, Dawn Phase Fashism" You think I make this stuff up?

Cross out the letters yourself... I think only 2 letters have to be re-used twice artificially, the "I" and the "T"
but other than that ALL of the letters are used only once each. If you don't try it yourself you will never be
convinced otherwise. So don't worry how silly you might look, no one will be watching.

K N O W N A S Y A Z T A S F R A V A S H I A N D A M E S H A S P E N T A S


T S A R A N A S T A S E V O N S I A T S K Y D A W N P H A S E F A S H I S M

Go ahead, connect the letters, I challenge you all.
Have fun with this.

Just Google "Anastase Vonsiatsky photos" and you will find the following web selections complete with Swastikas....

What was George's favorite but little known pseudonym? I will leave this one as a temporary open issue, just to see who knows there stuff the best about Georgie boy...

Tom, for your benefit, I try to use really small words now, and I type particularly slowly, too, since I was told that you
can not read very quickly and apparently you prefer my new compact style. ;>) That is just a <grin>

The name Beubouef appears to be of Russian origin, but I do not recall doing any research on this guy or making any comments.
What was Alvin's role in these events anyway?

Who was that other FBI agent from Dallas... a Warren deBrueys (sp?) Now certainly that is a White Russian name,
and in fact even Mitchell Werbell III stated that his father was a cavalry officer in the Czar's army. When I started down
this White Russian trail it began because of people like the Dallas Petroleum Geologists and other staunch anti-Communist Czarists involved in the case along with Georgie boy, who willingly took Oswald into their fold. They mostly all worked for J. Howard Pew
at Sun Oil Co. out of Pittsburgh. Pew was accused of selling diesel fuel to the Nazis during World War II at one time for
apparent use in the gas chambers. Real nice guy this Pew fellow. He knew Col. Willard F. Rockwell who had an office in Pittsburgh, too.

At the age of 17 or 18 in 1963, Al could only have been an agent of the Civil Air Patrol at best from what I can tell.

When I was 15 or 16 we were all "deputized" as junior Civil Defense members and given a phone number to call if we ever
saw any rocket vapor trails overhead heading in a South to North direction towards Washington, DC from Havana.

Now "that" was the extent of our high technology missile defense system in place in South Florida (Miami) during the early
days of the Cuban Missile Crisis. On the back of the card it should have said: "Now have a seat somewhere, put your head
between your knees and lock your hands behind your head and then you can readily kiss your XXX goodbye."

My real name is: Mr. John Jacob Jingle-Heimer Englebert Humperdinck J. Alfred Prufock Smith. Happy now?

What is your claim to fame in the JFK conundrum anyway? Or are you just a dilletante?

John,

Do you have any awareness of "Vala" Valentina Osterman(n) ? I've posted references to her in the "Patrick Hoy" thread:


...this may be her....click on the "translate this page" option:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=1929+va...;fp=23tj5qXL0AY
Miss Russland – Wikipedia
- [ Translate this page ]
22. Jan. 2009 ... 1929, Valentina Osterman(n) [2], Валентина Остерман. Irina Lewitskaja [Levetky], Ирина Левицкая. 1930, Irene Wentzell [Wentzel] ...
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Russland

....anyway, I thought she would be easier to trace back to her white Russian parents....she came into her marriage to Ernest Byfield Jr., circa 1955, with a 55 carat diamond....I assumed that she inherited the diamond.

Ernest is Ernie Byfield Jr., mentioned in David KE Bruce's book as an OSS officer:


As I've documented in the post linked above, after Vala Osterman Byfield died in 1970, Ernest married an Italian countess named Diana Masieri. The widow Masieri Byfield has been married to one Robert Strange McNamara since 2004:
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=dia...=1&ie=UTF-8

Ernest's mom was Gladys Rosenthal of Chicago, originally married to Ernest L. Byfield, of the Sherman Hotel Group and the Ambassador East Hotel's Pump Room restaurant.

Glady's second husband was Raymond F. Tartiere, a Parisian and London banker. In 1940, the couple purchased the 400 acre, Glen Ora estate in Middleburg, VA.

In late 1960, at the suggestion of JFK friend, WWII Time war correspondent, turned artist, William Walton, JFK, with Jackie's encouragement, leased Glen Ora from Walton's "old friend", Gladys Tartiere, allegedly relutctantly until Clark Clifford and Walton could convince Tartiere to do so. Glen Ora was the weekend white house until spring, 1963, with Jackie and children usually living there from thursday until monday nights.

Ernest L. Byfield groomed his executive assistant, Patrick Hoy, to assume the presidency of the Sherman Hotel group, upon Byfield's death in 1950. It was reported that Byfield, never having written a word in print, suddenly took off for Europe in 1944 on assignment of Hearst newspapers as a war correspondent.

Chicago columnist Irv Kupcinet, a close friend, along with Patrick Hoy, of mob lawyer Sidney Korshak, lived nightly, for many years in booth one of the Pump Room restaurant, managed by Byfield, and then by Patrick Hoy. Ernest Jr., with white Russian wife Vala at home, was a director of Sherman Hotels, along with his brother, Hugh.

Kupcinet's co-columnists and childhood friends Ira and Jimmy Colitz, owned the Clover bar, next to Hotel Sherman, and were friends since childhood with Jack Ruby. Testimony to the WC revealed that Ruby frequented the Clover Bar, returning there within the year before Nov, 22, 1963, and Ruby's brother testified that Ruby lived at the Sherman Hotel after leaving the military in 1946, and stayed there when visiting Chicago, thereafter.

Henry Crown, largest stockholder of TFX prime contractor, General Dynamics, as head of the executive committee, hired Hoy in 1960, as Gen Dyn corporate VP and president of it's Chicago, Material Service divison.

Henry Crown's personal attorney, Albert E. Jenner, was appointed assistant counsel on the WC, responsible for determining whether Oswald or Ruby were part of a conspiracy...or not, by Earl Warren, a close friend of Henry Crown's principle business partner and friend, Conrad Hilton.

Clark Clifford, mentioned as the JFK aide responsible for "convincing" Gladys Tartiere to lease GLen Ora to JFK, sponsored Albert E. Jenner, a republican, for an LBJ appointment to the Supreme Court.

Clifford's obit describes a scheduled "one on one", one hour meeting on Nov., 23, 1963 at the white house with LBJ, that turned into four hours, lasting "long into the evening".......

Patrick Hoy pled guilty in 1970 to "wire fraud", in the course of fraudulantly obtaining $5 million in bank loans, and declaring bankruptcy with default on loans of $165,000 outstanding to sons of Henry Crown. Although Crown's son, "John J.", was an associate and then law partner of Albert Jenner since 1959, and Crown gained the most financially from the halting of the senate investigations of Bobby Baker, TFX, and LBJ after Nov., 22, 1963, Jenner was still appointed to the WC.

Henry Crown's other son, Lester, net worth $4.8 billion, and his son, James Schine Crown, are early and principle backers of President Obama's presidential bid.

Lester's wife, Renee Schine, is the sister of the late G. David Schine, close associate of Roy Cohn in 1954, and target of RFK's embarassing exposure of Cohn's 43 attempts to persuade the US Army to provide special treatment, exemption from the draft, or officer's commission for draftee Schine.

Schine later served as the GM of his father's Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, still owned by the Schine family when RFK was shot there in June, 1968.

Probably all unrelated, just the work of an all knowing and omnipotent God, laying down a series of unrelated coincidences, intended to confuse and confound us, for his amusement?

Tom,

I have not heard of her before this. I tend to focus on those suspects who have a long and fabled history of violence, or those who make violent and threatening
statements (anti-Kennedy or anti-Democracy) and those who have memberships or leadership positions in either pro-Nazi or pro-Fascist organizations. I try to give
their women-folk the benefit of the doubt. As you know murders and violent felonies are usually committed by persons with excessive testosterone levels. <grin>
Plus, those most likely to work for the destruction of the Iron Curtain via the death of JFK usually lost almost everything during the 1917 Russian Revolution. Anyone
who has a husband who can afford a 55-carat diamond ring is not going to rattle cages or take many risks. Poverty, hate and remorse breeds thoughts of revenge
and efforts to recapture lost riches earned under the Czarist regime which still might be recoverable. Even Herbert Hoover's family lost oil wells and property in
the 1917 Revolution and spent decades trying to get it all back somehow.

But I will keep an eye out for any links to her or her husbands. She might have been a moneybags source for Vonsiatsky though. I will send you a few private
names of interest if you have the time or interest to pursue them, but one or 2 may still be alive, so please use caution. I will identify those still armed and dangerous
and you have to promise never to divulge their names on this or any other public forum. You game for this?

Ironically enough I suffered a Transient Ischemic Attack (TIA) a few years ago, too, but the blood clot was dislodged as I hit the floor and I only suffered speech
impairnment and motor skill disruptions for about 5-6 hours. Really sorry to hear about your wife and what you are both going through. There but for the grace
of God, go I. My prayers are with you both. I was told that I had the same condition which caused Tedy Bruschi of the Patriots to have his stroke, too.

John Bevilaqua

Here are some more details about the Tafts and the Drapers I just discovered. Did not know that the Dukes Tobacco Interests
and the Tafts were this closely associated with the Textile interests of the Drapers.

Did you folks know that Frank Wisner from Mississippi was also in the 1936 Olympics as a sprinter along with Floyd Draper, Wick Draper's
nephew and that they BOTH played 2nd fiddle to Jesse Owens and Roger Metcalf as well. Neither the Drapers, the Wisners, the entire East Coast WASP establishment, nor Adolph Hitler were too excited about how that all played out. Draper started The Pioneer Fund a few months later in 1937, and the rest is history as they say. Instead of Floyd Draper and Frank Wisner going down as 4 time Olympic Gold Medalists they had
to settle for the relay races in the sprints and Owens and Metcalf got all the Gold and the Glory, too.

Seems to me that the law firm of: Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft played a big role in some famous cases in the
middle of the previous century. Anyone hear of them?


Mr. and Mrs. Taft and Walbridge S. Taft were guests at the wedding of Mary, daughter of Benjamin N. Duke of the American Tobacco Co., to A.J. Drexel Biddle. ($500,000 in Gifts At Biddle Wedding. New York Times, Jun. 17, 1915.) He was active in fundraisers for the American Society for the Control of Cancer in 1926. (Cancer Fund Gains $90,000 in Campaign. New York Times, Sep. 28, 1926; $100,000 Offered For Cancer Cure. New York Times, Dec. 16, 1926.)



Walbridge S. Taft

His son, Walbridge Smith Taft, Yale 1907, was a member of Elihu. He practiced in his father's office until 1913, practiced independently to 1915, partner Parks, McKinstry, Taft 1915-17, then Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft until his death in 1951. He married Elizabeth Clark of Detroit in 1923. (Bulletin of Yale University. Obituary Record of Graduates of the Undergraduate Schools Deceased during the Year 1950-1951, pp. 63-64.) He and his father were guests at the wedding of Mary, daughter of Benjamin N. Duke of the American Tobacco Co., to A.J. Drexel Biddle. ($500,000 in Gifts At Biddle Wedding. New York Times, Jun. 17, 1915), and he was an usher of William J. Sturgis at his marriage to Thomas B. Yuille's daughter Ellen. (Miss Ellen Yuille Weds W.J. Sturgis. New York Times, Nov. 18, 1915.) Taft's first marriage was to Helen Draper, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. George A. Draper of Boston. His brother, William Howard Taft 2d, was best man. Ushers included William J. Sturgis, Lee J. Perrin [S&B 1906], Arthur P. McKinstrey, James Watson Webb, Angier B. Duke, Theodore P. Dixon, Reese Alsop, and James Jackson Higginson, all of New York. (Walbridge S. Taft Weds Miss Draper. New York Times, Feb. 11, 1917.)


Obituary Record 1950-1951 / Yale University Library (pdf, 160 pp)

William H. Taft 2d
Willliam Howard Taft 2d, Yale 1909, was subscription manager of The New York Times from 1923 to 1929. He was associated with securities brokers Taylor, Bates & Co. from 1929 to 1934. He was vice president of the Central Savings Bank 1934-36, and assistant treasurer, assistant vice president and secretary of the Bank for Savings. He married Marguerite Temple O'Neill of Pittsburgh in 1917. (Obituary Record of Graduates of the Undergraduate Schools Deceased during the Year 1951-1952, pp. 79-80.)


<A href="http://mssa.library.yale.edu/obituary_record/1925_1952/1951-52.pdf">Obituary Record 1951-1952 / Yale University Library (pdf, 215 pp)

John, in this thread,
The Yankee-Cowboy Conflict and 2006
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=162644

I've posted a detailed description related to the significance of Edward Gordon Hooker's choice of Cord Meyer's first cousin, S. Willets Meyer, as the best man in Hooker's 1946 wedding:

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en...avid+f+bartlett
SANDRA H. PAYSON LISTS ATTENDANTS; Sisters to Be Members of Her...
- New York Times - Dec 9, 1948
The ush ers will be Cord 1V[eyer Jr., another brother; Willetts Meyer of New York, cousin of the prospective ; David F. Bartlett of I-lobe Sound, Fla., ...

Frank Wisner and Cord Meyer were very close CIA brethren, and JFK's "best friend", Charles L. Bartlett, (brother of usher David F. Bartlett, displayed in the above wedding description....) seems to have also have been close friends with Cord Meyer, GHW Bush, and to an only slightly lesser extent, Prescott Bush, as well.....

I will read that as time permits but just suffice it to say that James Forrestal and Frank Wisner's relationship to the ManCand pre-MKULTRA training programs they were either heading up or invoved with led to their ultimate demise via self-destruction. Ulius Amoss (and Carleton Coon?) worked for Frank Wisner and Clendenin J. Ryan, w;the Baltimore millionaire who financed Amoss' anti-Communist ventures, reported to James Forrestal during World War II. Condon references Carriers of the Forrestal class in Manchurian Candidate with a link to F. W. Woolworth's vanishing cream to shrink ships down to the size of some of the toy battleships which Vonsiatsky had in his home in Connecticut. This makes no sense at all unless Condon knew all about the photos of "Vonsiatsky's Navy" in the NY World-Telegram (from John Roy Carlson?), and Vonsiatsky's apparent joint work (directly or indirectly) with Wisner and Forrestal on early Man Cand programs.
Vonsiatsky in all likelihood got his neighbor and close fiend, Wickliffe Draper, involved with ManCand and MKULTRA where Draper learned all about these programs by paying off Dr. Hans J. Eysenck, through Pioneer Fund grants. The question still remains whether Draper and Vonsiatsky with the help of Ray S. Cline's Man Cand programmed proteges like Robert Emmett Johnson and Lee Oswald could have done the entire hit themselves or not. Did they use only the ASC foursome of Angleton, Morris, Willoughby and Cline as go-betweens or as masterminds to concoct a situation where a cover-up HAD TO BE INSTITUTED by dint of the presence of LHO as the selected patsy and/or as a token shooter under Man Cand hypnosis from the TBD. To me this is a nitpicker's point at best. Both Ray S. Cline and Robert Emmett Johnson, made a lucrative finanacial career from that point forward out of their "Murder, Inc." tag team match ups which later included Archbishop Romero, Benito Acquino and most likely RFK AND MLK.

I realize the debate about "CIA-sanctioned" and "offical CIA" hits versus hits by "CIA Mercenaries or Cowboys" with "CIA training" will never be solved to anyone's satisfaction in my lifetime. But the fact that suspected CIA agent, Harold Chait from Baltimore, MD has been conclusively linked as a financial conduit to both "Nellie's Boys" in South Florida and later to Iran-Contra covert funding via The Bank of Maryland by Iran-Contra whistle blower Robert Maxwell leads me to believe that the use of CIA proprietaries implies official knowledge and official participation in the JFK hits and in the Iran-Contra proceedings far beyond whatever was distinctly provable before this. Also the confession of E. Howard Hunt which is independently verifiable regarding his links to a "CIA safehouse" in Miami puts the true icing on the cake. Stick a fork in it, the evidence in the JFK plot is well done.

Vonsiatsky bought his toy battleships at F. W. Woolworth's to solidify Condon's point. I will find the N.Y. World-Telegram reference on the web or just look in The Russian Fascists. His toy battleships are right there for all to see on the window sills of his Putnam "fake fortress". More later.

Details in my manuscript are to follow.

Curiously,

I've discovered that de Mohrenschildt's wife's (Wynne Sharples) uncle Larry Sharples, was acquainted with and competed against Marguerite Clark Willaim's husband's air racing team designer and pilot, Wedell-Willams' James R. Wedell, before Wedell's plane crash death in June, 1934:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ig...l&id=I15310

http://books.google.com/books?um=1&q=l...nG=Search+Books

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=sha...1&scoring=a
PLANES GLIDE INTO MIAMI FOR AERIAL PROGRAM
Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Jan 11, 1934
Lawrence P. Sharples of Philadelphia, piloting one of the 107 planes which ... Breaking through the fog, James R. Wedell, who set a new world land plane ...

Civil Air Patrol thread:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=12225

None other than C. D. Jackson was the best man at the TAFT-DRAPER wedding in 1917, that is how far back Wickliffe Draper and C. D. Jackson went in fact. This nexus of Tafts, Drapers, Grays
and Bushes formed a WASP-inspired Eugenics establishment for over 75 years. They had contacts, through Draper, right into the Mississippi Sovereingty Commission and their band of thugs to
do their dirty work.

Looks like Draper not only had technical help from Dr. Hans J. Eysenck in stealing the MK/ULTRA technology and passing it on to Ray S. Cline at WACL, but he also had help from
Frank Wisner and maybe even Cord Meyer, too. Wisner was an Olympic level hurdler but either decided not to try out for the 1936 Olympics or did not make the team. Draper's
nephew Floyd Draper, was relegated to Olympic obscurity when both Jesse Owens and Ralph Metcalf took the Gold and Silver in the 100 meter and the 200 meter, Floyd's specialties.
Both Hilter and Draper were really ripped about this and Wisner probably joined them, too. A year later, Draper started The Pioneer Fund, and the rest is history.

Tom, I missed this original posting in February and regret the delayed response but I have not yet come across Valentina Osterman(n).

"Probably all unrelated, just the work of an all knowing and omnipotent God, laying down a series of unrelated coincidences, intended to confuse and confound us, for his amusement?"

I would agree with your statement above, however, for the most part. Over 50% of the JFK "investigative leads" would fall into this category, IMHO.

Did the Warren Commission and the FBI and CIA deliberately bury John Bevilaqua's missing link?


They sure investigated the heck out Dorothey Pierson's family background, but they do not mention the one non-family member in the DeMohrenschildt - Pierson 1943 wedding party, the other best man, Baron "Geddard" Wrede of Washington:

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=350152


In his 1943 marriage ceremony with Dorothy Pierson, the NY TImes describes DeMohrenschildt's following a tradition of having two best men, his brother,
Dimitri, and someone described as "Baron Geddard Wrede":


It only took a few minutes of searching to make me suspect the wedding announcement in the newspaper made an error in publishing Baron Wrede's first name.
The investigators in late 1963 could have unearthed his name and background if they chose to, so I assume they did, and hid the results from the public, and probably from the Warren Commission:






Sometime before July, 1925, Baron Wrede married the daughter of a Yale grad who later lived in Paris, and then in London:



Chances are that Demohrenschildt did not become so friendly with Baron Wrede in the short time he was in the US after March, 1940. but it is possible. It is also possible that Sten Goddert Wrede is not the "Baron Wrede" who was the SIS agent who made the key discovery that netted a Soviet spy in 1930.

Immigration and border and transit records available at ancestry.com do not contain anything on a "Geddard" Wrede, and neither does any internet search I have done.

Immigration records show that when Sten Goddert Wrede arrived in the US for the first time, in July, 1925, he traveled with his wife, Alida, and he used a Finnish diplomatic passport, listed his occupation as "Baron", and was in the US for a ten day visit, staying with friend on Riverside Drive in Manhattan. Wife Alida, born in Paris of Irish decent, claimed to have lived in the US for seven years. On the trip back to the UK, they claimed to be in transit to Finland via Riga.

THe records show Goddert traveling alone as marital status "single", in March, 1940 from Genoa to NYC, claiming he had not been in the US since 1925, and that he would be staying at the St. Regis Hotel and the length of his stay was indefinite.

The next record show him, returning alone to New York, in November 1941, from Lisbon, Portugal. final destination Washington, for a stay in the US until the war ceased.
He was part of Finnish Leggation:

Wow, what a great piece of research, Tom. My hat is off to you. Two very obvious links between George de M and
Anastase Vonsiatsky are worth noting here.

1) In American Swastika by Charles Higham Vonsiatsky is credited with being the head of all White Russian spies in North America
both before and after he went to the Springfield, MO penitentiary from perhaps 1941 to 1946 for violations of the Alien and Sedition Act of 1917. And George de M has been identified by at least 5 different persons as being a suspected Nazi spy. His cousin, a Baron Constantine de Maydell, I think it was, also went to jail for being convicted as a Nazi spy making him another Vonsiatsky direct report during WW II.

2) One of George's wives (Jeanne or Jean) was actually BORN in Harbin, Manchuria (Manchuoko) while her parents were living out their diaspora after being forced to leave Russia right after the Communist Revolution. Of course George lived there too both before and during that marriage. And Prof. John J. Stephan in The Russian Fascists (which you should read) mentions that Anastase Vonsiatsky's main HQs were IN Harbin, Manchuria from maybe 1919 until about 1949 where his 100,000 followers treated him like a God. Whenever he traveled around the world on his train tours, each station was filled with marching bands, soldiers at arms and a bevy of beauties anxious to get a shot at "Annie".

Hi, Gary Mack. I see you are on this thread already, you little bugger.

3) And where did Charles Willoughby go right after WW-II ended? Why to Harbin, Manchuria to visit the site of various live vivisection operations on British and American POWs and Chinese citizens performed by Japanese war criminals. He picked up samples called "human detritus" kept by the Japanese from various infections injected into unsuspecting victims when they were so desperate for methods to regain the lead in the WW-II conflict. Charles probably also heard about the training of
Japanese Kamikaze pilots in... ummm... the Harbin region, courtesy of Vonsiatsky's Mind Control experts. That is when Willoughby and Vonsiatsky were put on their joint path of destiny to kill JFK. Willoughby heard of Vonsiatsky and his Mind Control techniques and later he sought out Vonsiatsky or vice versa in their joint quest to make the Fourth Reich victorious and to kill JFK.

4) Richard Condon got wind of both Willoughby, MacArthur and Vonsiatsky and put the latter two in his novel called... ummm...
The Manchurian Candidate because Vonsiatsky WAS in fact THE CANDIDATE FROM MANCHURIA to become the Premier of a re-conquered Russia with the aid of various rotten Nazi bastidges like Willoughby.

Vonsiatsky was known as AA V-V by the way for Anastase Andreivitch Vonsiatsky-Vonsiatskoy his full name.

Converting AA V-V to the numeric positions of these letters in the alphabet deciphers to: 11/22

End of story. And that's the way it was... November 22, 1963. And You Were There....

Thank you, John Bevilaqua. I am just going in whatever direction the leads I manage to unearth, take me in. When I find linkages, as in this one between DeMohrenschildt's unexamined 1943 "best man" Sten Goddert Wrede and Wrede's affiliations; Russsion Brotherhood for Truth and as an SIS agent and Finnish diplomat, Vonsiatsky needs to be mentioned. I knew you could describe Vonsiatsky's background in greater detail than in his partial FBI file.

Again, as I said early in my last post, I find it curious that the WC investigation went into such depth on the backgrounds of Dorothy Pierson;s parents,, although her father, A. Romeyn Pierson, was dead nearly 15 years by 1964....the only other irrelevant things the WC left out, in detailing the origins of Dorothy Pierson's maternal grandparents were that her mother's father immigrated from the UK, circa 1890, and his wife, Dorothy's grandmother, was the daugher of German immigrants.

Sure....Dorothy's mother's (Cornelia Skinner) folks lived in Gloversville, NY, at the time of Cornelia's birth, but didn't so many who the WC investigators so lightly passed over, have ties to Gloversville? (George Senator, Joe "the wop" Cataldo, and Henry Crown's daughter-in-law, Renee Schine, and her brother and RFK nemesis, G. David Schine, and their dad, the Mickey Cohen "associate" J. Myer Schine, who happened to be the owner of the Ambassador Hotel in LA in 1968.)

And, it's not like WC Asst. Counsel Jenner, (Henry Crown's personal attorney and "mob" defense lawyer for Teamster's Pension fund looter, Allen Dorfman.) didn't broach the "best man" subject with Demohrenschildt....he just didn't happen to ask anything about the actual best man DeMohrenschildt had once chosen, Sten Goddert Wrede:


And, it is not like it was no big deal that Wrede was chosen by Demohrenschildt to be co-best man with brother Dimitri. The wedding announcement image in my last post makes it plain that tge wedding was very private. Dorothy Pierson chose to be unattended for the ceremony, owing, it says, to the illness of her mother.
I doubt that this had anything to do with Dorothy's other circumstances, the fact that she had just turned 18, was pregnant, and was marrying a man more than twice
her age, don't you?

In my last post, there was no source to confirm that Sten Goddert Wrede was "the Baron" who was an SIS agent and headed the Baltic branch of the Russian Brotherhood, "from Berlin", or even to support the notion that this "Baron Wrede" ever lived in Germany. I think it will take examination of records, if they are even available, from the UK gov. archives to glean much more about Sten Goddert Wrede's service to Great Britiain and to the Russian Brotherhood.

When Sten Goddert Wrede visited the US for the first time, in July, 1925, the ship's manifest indicates that he listed his occupation as "Barion", that he was accompanied by his bride of nine days, Alida, who we know to be Alida Fitzgerald, and that the address in New York, NY where they planned to stay was, "476 Riverside Drive."

This is the last reference I can find, save in her father, Augustine Fitzgerald's 1930 Yale Univ. obituary, of "Baroness Alida Wrede."


The article above reports the death of Alida Fitzgerald Wrede's 93 year old grandmother. The 1920 US census shows the elderly Mrs. Fitzgerald to be living with her granddaughter in NYC. The funeral announcement, published three days later the above article, shows the funeral being held at the deceased Mrs. Fitzgerald's home, with the location listed as the same address as listed in the July, 1925 ship's manifest stating Wrede's destination in NYC


THe other things we know about Sten Goddert Wrede is that he applied in NYC for US citizenship, but apparently never received it, because records of his travel to the US, nearly annually from 1946 to 1956, show him to be a citizen of Finland.

On the passenger manifests for two of those post WWII visite to the US, including one in 1948, and in a later one, of six months duration, Wrede listed the place he would be staying as this location in NYC:


The only folks who I know of who came from Tuxedo Park, or who attended school there, are relatives of Claibourne Pell, Hale Bogg's wife's family, and
Maude Coster, who entertained Charlene Wrightsman and who was the widow of Morgan partner, Charles Coster, (John Train's grandparents), the parents of Charles Coster Jr., Orange County fox hunt buddy of EA Harriman. Joseph Dryer's wife, Nancy attended school in Tuxedo Park.

I'll post photos of census and ships' and flight manifest records supporting the points above, if there is further interest.....

Tom,
Did you notice that when Wrede came to the U.S. aboard the S.S. Rex from Genoa in 1940, he was with numerous other diplomats?
A few weeks earlier (Feb. 17) newspapers reported that U.S. Sec. of State Sumner Welles sailed on the Rex to Naples with steel corporation chairman Myron C. Taylor as FDR's peace envoy to the Vatican.
(Feb. 17--On the same ship was Mr. Axel WennerGren, leading Swedish industrialist, who according to Mr. Kluchkhorn of "The New York Times," was summoned from Nassau, where he has a winter home, by General Goering, who had informed him that he wanted Germany to make peace in Finland.)
Interestingly, the Rex had been a gambling ship until a year before these passengers boarded.
http://www.onlinenevada.org/SS_Rex_Club
Tony Cornero, a one-time 1920s bootlegger from California and a former casino operator well known in Las Vegas, opened the S.S. Rex Club casino at Second and Fremont streets in downtown Las Vegas in 1944. Cornero, born in Italy in 1895, named the club after an ill-fated gambling ship he owned off the coast of Southern California, six years before.

Back in 1931 in Las Vegas, Cornero and his two brothers built and ran the Meadows Club at Fremont Street and Boulder Highway, considered the first casino resort to debut in the town in the weeks after the Nevada Legislature legalized gambling. After a brief success, the business ran into trouble, and Cornero and his brothers lost control of the Meadows only months after it opened.

Cornero returned to California. In 1938, he operated the S.S. Rex gambling ship, about three miles off the coast of Santa Monica, in international waters where gambling was legal. But California prohibited gambling, and Cornero and his fellow cruise ship operators often ignored the three-mile limit. The state's attorney general, Earl Warren, deemed the boat illegal and the United States Coast Guard viewed it as a menace to navigation. Following a nationally publicized confrontation with the Coast Guard that lasted nine days at sea, Cornero was forced to close down his floating casino.

I think I recall seeing a photo of Earl Warren throwing slot machines into the ocean.

http://laist.com/2009/08/08/laistory_the_b...anta_monica.php

Of course I am more interested in the other ship Rex, docked at Palm Beach, owned by Somosas, connected to Belcher Oil and leased to the CIA under cover of Collins Radio, Richardson, Texas.

Yes Linda, I did notice. There were even more diplomats listed on the Ship's manifest of Wrede's last return trip to New York, (Wrede's name is on pg. 3 Line 22) in November, 1941, just before the US entered the war and Wrede was confined to the US for the duration of hostilities. I only regret I do not have the patience to catalogue and cross reference the names of all of the first class passengers listed on the manifests of all the voyages of my subjects of interest. I have thought of doing that in other instances, but laziness has so far triumphed over curiousity.
Have you done it with any manifest?

I think reading this snippet a couple of years ago, planted the idea in my head:


Background:

In 1935, after Babe Ruth had left the New York Yankees, remaining Yankees star player Lou Gehrig's salary was slightly less than former democratic leader Jouett Shouse agreed to from the neo-fascist in exhange for helping to cement a US political structure of one party with two right wings.....yet the allegedley "partisan" political elite of that era was mostly of one united agenda and openly socialized and traveled with each other. Obama, Sen. Di Feinstein, and the rest of democrats today who work with republicans to be more Bush than Bush, when it comes to restricting civil liberties, subservience to executive power consolidation, accountability for the crimes possibly committed by the highest elected officials, and for furtherance of the national security state, must draw their inspiration from the list of stooges in that 1939 time.com article reporting the shipboard travel companionship.

I thought this stood out, in view of all pre-September, 2009 investigation of Demohrenschildt had overlooked (ignored?) Finnish "diplomat", Sten Goddert Wrede.:

"Biggest single outlay: $36,750 salary and $18,000 expenses for cold-eyed President Jouett Shouse. Biggest single item of income: a $79,750 "loan" from Irenee du Pont. League lenders in the $10,000 class included Lammot, Pierre, S. Hallock and William du Pont, John J. Raskob, Alfred P. Sloan Jr., Ernest T. Weir, Joseph E. Widener, all good haters of the New Deal. In the $5,000 class were Phillips Petroleum Co. and Edward F. ("Let's Gang Up") Hutton."

Another nice scoop, Tom. It was in fact, this entire Liberty League contingent who were behind the FIRST president coup d'etat documented in "The Plot to Seize the White House." by Jules Archer. I have long contended that the JFK coup followed this same structure laid out by Draper's cronies in the 1930's. Liberty League became the Liberty Lobby and the rest is history. Draper used his J.P. Morgan trust account against both FDR and JFK and to fund the Mississippi Sovereignty Commission, too. Are you familiar with the saga of Maverick Marine Gen. Smedley Butler and company? By all means everyone should try to get a copy of The Plot to Seize the White House from abebooks.com
or elsewhere as well as Maverick Marine about Butler, who spilled the beans on the Liberty Leaguers plot against FDR.

At the JFK conference in Cambridge in the 1990's a journalist (a REAL journalist) described what she had discovered about this plot in the 1930's against FDR involving William Dudley Pelley from The pro-Nazi Silver Shirts who was GLK Smith's mentor and hero. So GLK Smith learned the business of presidential coups from one of the very best of the best and he carried out the plot against JFK.

This has to be written and placed into the public record for future generations to read. The forces of
evil will always influence the democratic process given enough money and enough truly dedicated and devoted miscreants with sinister intentions unless you learn from the past and prevent them from succeeding in the future.

"A democracy has no real way to deal with those of the likes of Rev. Gerald L K Smith and William Dudley Pelley." - author unknown

"When Fascism comes to America it will be under the guise of Patriotism while hiding behind the waving of the American flag." - Senator Huey Long, the first victim of Rev. Gerald L K Smith and Co.

So how many CIA, OSS, and foreign intelligence assets can we link to George DeMohrenschildt?

In 1967, Jim Garrison asked the DOJ, in question 12 in the memo at the following link; "Is there any CIA association with George de Mohrenschildt?"
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=12

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=4


Looks like a slight spelling difference in the last name of Nicholas M. Anikeeff caused this interesting "meeting", described in this book, to be overlooked:



Is it only a coincidence that CIA's Anikeeff arranged for de Mohrenschildt and Clemard Joseph Charles to meet with Clairborne Pell, a cousin of CIA "asset" Tom Devine's (aka Wubriny-1) financial firm partner, John Train? Claiborne Pell and Train were also cousins of the wife of one of the seven WC commissioners, Hale Boggs.



What are the odds that a Russian immigrant would end up as a USN Commander and later with the CIA, a Navy trainer during WWII in Florida on the same or similar equipment that the CIA refurbished as the Cuban raider, Rex, as well as a friend of de Mohrenschildt, involved in the events leading up to the meeting reported by Wubriny-1?

So how do you think Claiborne Pell fits into this entire JFK conundrum? Was he a deliberate and witting participant in the cover-up
or was he somehow involved in joining in with the likes of J. Strom Thurmond, John Tower, Barry Goldwater, Jesse Helms, James Eastland, et al in the actual plot to kill JFK? You are obviously implying that Senator Pell was involved somehow in this entire plot
in some sort of nefarious, fully complicit and/or conspiratorial manner. Would you care to elaborate? This should be rich if you have
the guts to respond. How does Pell's wife's relationship to Hale Boggs figure into this entire picture? Are you implying that she used
her influence to get Boggs to do something illegal or immoral or unethical or that her familial relationship to a member of the Warren
Commission somehow taints her with guilt by association? Tom, you are stooping pretty low here, I hope you realize this. Do you know how close the Pells were (and still are) to the Kennedys and how physically and emotionally distraught they were about his death? Do you know about the Bouvier and the Auchincloss families from Rhode Island and how close Jackie was to George deMohrenshildt as a child? She used to call him "Uncle George", in fact while bouncing on his knee in Newport. Can you be totally oblivious to how preposterous your statements and your implied claims actually are? Do you know how distraught George was about how how his association with Oswald made him look like an insensitive, callous and vindictive agent contributing indirectly or directly to the misery and suffering of Jackie Kennedy? And you call this "research?" I call this clueless, feckless, careless and callous beyond belief. You gotta get out of the house more, dude.