One of the most controversial aspects of Billie Sol Estes' "confession" is the claim that LBJ was behind the death of his sister, Josefa Johnson.
Josefa Johnson was born in 1912. She was a student at San Marcos and after marrying early was divorced in 1937. Three years later she married a lieutenant colonel in the United States Army. The marriage ended in divorce in 1945.
Josefa took a keen interest in politics and helped her brother in his successful 1948 senatorial campaign. She had a reputation for wild behaviour and was said to work for Hattie Valdez's private club. Josefa was also an alcoholic and was admitted to hospital several times with health problems.
It was rumoured that Josefa Johnson had affairs with John Kinser and Mac Wallace. Kinser opened a golf course in Austin. According to Barr McClellan, the author of Blood, Money & Power: How LBJ Killed JFK, Kinser asked Josefa if she could arrange for her brother to loan him some money. Johnson interpreted this as a blackmail threat (Josefa had told Kinser about some of her brother's corrupt activities).
On 22nd October, 1951, Mac Wallace went to Kinser's miniature golf course. After finding Kinser in his golf shop, he shot him several times before escaping in his station wagon. A customer at the golf course had heard the shooting and managed to make a note of Wallace's license plate. The local police force was able to use this information to arrest Wallace.
Wallace was charged with murder but was released on bail after Edward Clark arranged for two of Johnson's financial supporters, M. E. Ruby and Bill Carroll, to post bonds on behalf of the defendant. Johnson's attorney, John Cofer, also agreed to represent Wallace.
On 1st February, 1952, Wallace resigned from his government job in order to distance himself from Lyndon B. Johnson. His trial began seventeen days later. Wallace did not testify. Cofer admitted his client's guilt but claimed it was an act of revenge as Kinser had been sleeping with Wallace's wife.
The jury found Wallace guilty of "murder with malice afore-thought". Eleven of the jurors were for the death penalty. The twelfth argued for life imprisonment. Judge Charles O. Betts overruled the jury and announced a sentence of five years imprisonment. He suspended the sentence and Wallace was immediately freed.
According to Bill Adler of The Texas Observer, several of the jurors telephoned John Kinser's parents to apologize for agreeing to a "suspended sentence, but said they did so only because threats had been made against their families."
Josefa Johnson died of a cerebral hemorrhage on 25th December, 1961. Despite state law, no autopsy was conducted. Twenty-three years later the lawyer, Douglas Caddy, wrote to Stephen S. Trott at the U.S. Department of Justice. In the letter Caddy claimed that Billie Sol Estes, Lyndon B. Johnson, Mac Wallace and Cliff Carter had been involved in the murders of several people including Josefa Johnson.
Full Version: Josefa Johnson
On 14th April, 1948, Josefa had an illegitimate child (Rodney Moss). He died, aged 40, in 1989.
QUOTE (John Simkin @ Feb 6 2006, 08:45 PM) 
On 14th April, 1948, Josefa had an illegitimate child (Rodney Moss). He died, aged 40, in 1989.
John,
At the time of Josefa's death, wasn't she married to James Moss? Moss I believe had a curious ability to know where to drill for oil.
James
QUOTE (James Richards @ Feb 6 2006, 09:09 PM)
QUOTE (John Simkin @ Feb 6 2006, 08:45 PM)
On 14th April, 1948, Josefa had an illegitimate child (Rodney Moss). He died, aged 40, in 1989.
John,
At the time of Josefa's death, wasn't she married to James Moss? Moss I believe had a curious ability to know where to drill for oil.
James
She was but they did not marry until 1955. What can you tell me about Moss?
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKjohnsonJ.htm
QUOTE (John Simkin @ Feb 7 2006, 07:43 AM)
QUOTE (James Richards @ Feb 6 2006, 09:09 PM)
QUOTE (John Simkin @ Feb 6 2006, 08:45 PM)
On 14th April, 1948, Josefa had an illegitimate child (Rodney Moss). He died, aged 40, in 1989.
John,
At the time of Josefa's death, wasn't she married to James Moss? Moss I believe had a curious ability to know where to drill for oil.
James
She was but they did not marry until 1955. What can you tell me about Moss?
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKjohnsonJ.htm
Not a lot unfortunately. I remember reading about this almost psychic ability Moss allegedly possessed to know where oil was untapped. I believe it was in a column (Tolbert's Texas) written by Frank Tolbert.
James
QUOTE (James Richards @ Feb 6 2006, 11:54 PM)
QUOTE (John Simkin @ Feb 7 2006, 07:43 AM)
QUOTE (James Richards @ Feb 6 2006, 09:09 PM)
QUOTE (John Simkin @ Feb 6 2006, 08:45 PM)
On 14th April, 1948, Josefa had an illegitimate child (Rodney Moss). He died, aged 40, in 1989.
John,
At the time of Josefa's death, wasn't she married to James Moss? Moss I believe had a curious ability to know where to drill for oil.
James
She was but they did not marry until 1955. What can you tell me about Moss?
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKjohnsonJ.htm
Not a lot unfortunately. I remember reading about this almost psychic ability Moss allegedly possessed to know where oil was untapped. I believe it was in a column (Tolbert's Texas) written by Frank Tolbert.
James
Josefa married in 1943. Her husband was Willard White, who had been an engineer in Victoria, Texas before she married him. He was already married when he lived there to a woman named Edith Mae Rowe. They had a daughter named Beverly White, who later married someone named Conditt. Beverly Conditt was mentioned in a book by socialistic anthropologist Leslie A. White as his niece.
Victoria, Texas is in South Texas and was the small town in which one of Brown & Root's subsidiaries was located--Victoria Gravel--the entity through which much of the illegal campaign funds were transferred to LBJ by the Brown family corporation that later was sold to Halliburton.
Willard White's father was also an engineer, who raised his family without their mother, according to the biography of Leslie White.
Much rumor and innuendo has been tossed around about Josefa's wild and woolly shenanigans as a drunk or prostitute at Miss Hattie's Place in south Austin. It was a favored hangout for Texas legislators when the lawmakers were in biannual session, but Miss Hattie also had a place in Cuero, not far from Victoria. If Josefa worked for her, it's possible it would have been there rather than in Austin, and she may have met Willard at that locale. Both places were eventually destroyed by fire and Hattie died, leaving a fortune to a daughter who was a nun.
As for Josefa, she did live for a time in Austin one street north of where her sister, Mrs. Birge Alexander, lived. Birge was regional head of the Civil Aeronautics Board based in Fort Worth before he retired to Austin. In 1945 a San Antonio newspaper (rival of one for which a Johnson relative, George W. Baines, worked) mentioned that Josefa had given a dinner party featuring linens and silver that had been looted from Adolph Hitler's castle in Berchtesgaden, Germany. The article has been uploaded to another thread in the forum relating to Boris Pash, who was Col. Willard White's commanding officer in the 1269th Combat Engineers, which was the fighting unit involved in the Alsos Mission to capture German uranium and other materials related to the atomic bomb.
QUOTE (John Simkin @ Feb 6 2006, 12:45 PM)
On 14th April, 1948, Josefa had an illegitimate child (Rodney Moss). He died, aged 40, in 1989.
Her son's name was Rodney Baines White but was sometimes called Moss after Josefa and Willard White divorced and she was remarried to Jim Moss of Fredericksburg, Texas. It was sometimes stated that Rodney was adopted by Josefa, that he was actually the natural son of Sam Houston Johnson. All I can find is that he was supposedly born in Biloxi, Miss. between the years she married White and Moss. Very little is know about LBJ's younger brother Sam Houston, though it has been reported that he was in O.S.S. during WWII.
QUOTE (Linda Minor @ Jul 20 2009, 02:16 AM)
QUOTE (John Simkin @ Feb 6 2006, 12:45 PM)
On 14th April, 1948, Josefa had an illegitimate child (Rodney Moss). He died, aged 40, in 1989.
Her son's name was Rodney Baines White but was sometimes called Moss after Josefa and Willard White divorced and she was remarried to Jim Moss of Fredericksburg, Texas. It was sometimes stated that Rodney was adopted by Josefa, that he was actually the natural son of Sam Houston Johnson. All I can find is that he was supposedly born in Biloxi, Miss. between the years she married White and Moss. Very little is know about LBJ's younger brother Sam Houston, though it has been reported that he was in O.S.S. during WWII.
This obituary is taken from the Dallas Morning News of 12-26-1961
In the book, LBJ Architect of American Ambition page 502, the LBJ siblings are listed as....
Lucia Huffman, Josefa Hermine, Rebeka Luruth, Lyndon Baines and Sam Houston Johnson.
Click to view attachment
QUOTE (Robert Howard @ Aug 2 2009, 02:06 PM)
QUOTE (Linda Minor @ Jul 20 2009, 02:16 AM)
QUOTE (John Simkin @ Feb 6 2006, 12:45 PM)
On 14th April, 1948, Josefa had an illegitimate child (Rodney Moss). He died, aged 40, in 1989.
Her son's name was Rodney Baines White but was sometimes called Moss after Josefa and Willard White divorced and she was remarried to Jim Moss of Fredericksburg, Texas. It was sometimes stated that Rodney was adopted by Josefa, that he was actually the natural son of Sam Houston Johnson. All I can find is that he was supposedly born in Biloxi, Miss. between the years she married White and Moss. Very little is know about LBJ's younger brother Sam Houston, though it has been reported that he was in O.S.S. during WWII.
This obituary is taken from the Dallas Morning News of 12-26-1961
In the book, LBJ Architect of American Ambition page 502, the LBJ siblings are listed as....
Lucia Huffman, Josefa Hermine, Rebeka Luruth, Lyndon Baines and Sam Houston Johnson.
Click to view attachment
Ron
Here is a photo, which is not all that clear, but that is Josepha on the left, and their Mother next to LBJ, and then Lady Bird...
nothing re his brother.or other siblings........etc....
They are all buried at the Johnson Farm, in the family plot........also one of he and L.B on their honeymoon...FWIW......
B........
QUOTE (Bernice Moore @ Aug 4 2009, 02:38 AM)
QUOTE (Robert Howard @ Aug 2 2009, 02:06 PM)
QUOTE (Linda Minor @ Jul 20 2009, 02:16 AM)
QUOTE (John Simkin @ Feb 6 2006, 12:45 PM)
On 14th April, 1948, Josefa had an illegitimate child (Rodney Moss). He died, aged 40, in 1989.
Her son's name was Rodney Baines White but was sometimes called Moss after Josefa and Willard White divorced and she was remarried to Jim Moss of Fredericksburg, Texas. It was sometimes stated that Rodney was adopted by Josefa, that he was actually the natural son of Sam Houston Johnson. All I can find is that he was supposedly born in Biloxi, Miss. between the years she married White and Moss. Very little is know about LBJ's younger brother Sam Houston, though it has been reported that he was in O.S.S. during WWII.
This obituary is taken from the Dallas Morning News of 12-26-1961
In the book, LBJ Architect of American Ambition page 502, the LBJ siblings are listed as....
Lucia Huffman, Josefa Hermine, Rebeka Luruth, Lyndon Baines and Sam Houston Johnson.
Click to view attachment
Ron
Here is a photo, which is not all that clear, but that is Josepha on the left, and their Mother next to LBJ, and then Lady Bird...
nothing re his brother.or other siblings........etc....
They are all buried at the Johnson Farm, in the family plot........also one of he and L.B on their honeymoon...FWIW......
B........
Thanks for that Bernice, do you happen to know where Lucia and Rebeka lived circa 1963?
Nothing urgent....
BTW It's Robert....not Ron...but since I like you so much you can call me Ol' Whatshisname...lol
QUOTE (Robert Howard @ Aug 5 2009, 09:15 AM)
QUOTE (Bernice Moore @ Aug 4 2009, 02:38 AM)
QUOTE (Robert Howard @ Aug 2 2009, 02:06 PM)
QUOTE (Linda Minor @ Jul 20 2009, 02:16 AM)
QUOTE (John Simkin @ Feb 6 2006, 12:45 PM)
On 14th April, 1948, Josefa had an illegitimate child (Rodney Moss). He died, aged 40, in 1989.
Her son's name was Rodney Baines White but was sometimes called Moss after Josefa and Willard White divorced and she was remarried to Jim Moss of Fredericksburg, Texas. It was sometimes stated that Rodney was adopted by Josefa, that he was actually the natural son of Sam Houston Johnson. All I can find is that he was supposedly born in Biloxi, Miss. between the years she married White and Moss. Very little is know about LBJ's younger brother Sam Houston, though it has been reported that he was in O.S.S. during WWII.
This obituary is taken from the Dallas Morning News of 12-26-1961
In the book, LBJ Architect of American Ambition page 502, the LBJ siblings are listed as....
Lucia Huffman, Josefa Hermine, Rebeka Luruth, Lyndon Baines and Sam Houston Johnson.
Click to view attachment
Ron
Here is a photo, which is not all that clear, but that is Josepha on the left, and their Mother next to LBJ, and then Lady Bird...
nothing re his brother.or other siblings........etc....
They are all buried at the Johnson Farm, in the family plot........also one of he and L.B on their honeymoon...FWIW......
B........
Thanks for that Bernice, do you happen to know where Lucia and Rebeka lived circa 1963?
Nothing urgent....
BTW It's Robert....not Ron...but since I like you so much you can call me Ol' Whatshisname...lol
Hi:There Robert Whatshisname:
Anudder Spullin mistook..typo , sorry bout dat...and or ...more grey cells gone...
Nothing on the sisters off hand, but I do intend to get up there and have a gander through the LBJ library shelves......As I find any information re LBJ interesting......I will post if any found....
I did search but nothing came up..
This is "Be NIce Day" on the Forum, I like you so much also......
Signed.
Heroverthere....
Thanks.....
B.
Mrs. Birge Davis (Lucia Johnson) Alexander
Address: 2508 Jarratt Av, Austin, Texas 78703-0801 (1993)
Her husband was Birge Davis Alexander, born in 1912 in Minnesota. His father was Kay Lambert Alexander, Jr. who was a civil engineer doing road paving (like Herman Brown) living in Uvalde in 1930, but in 1920 Birge and his siblings lived with Kay's unmarried sister Donna Alexander while their father was working as a painter in Oklahoma. He died in Travis County (Austin) in 1989.
Birge's aunt Donna Alexander was born in Kentucky in 1879. In 1900, however, she lived in Travis County, Texas where her father was a surgeon. Her mother was Mary E. Alexander, born in Kentucky in 1853. She had a younger sister named Lillian/Lillie, whose married name was Law and who also lived with the family.
They lived in the same precinct and district (south of Riverside between Lamar and S. Congress) in 1900 as the family of Polk Shelton: John E. Shelton, a lawyer in 1900, would likely have been in the same social group with Dr. Alexander's family, the grandfather of the man Lucia Johnson married in 1933. Polk Shelton was born in October 1900; possibly Dr. Alexander, a surgeon in the area at the time, delivered him. The Sheltons lived many years west of S. Congress on Live Oak Street just north of W. Oltorf. In 1930 Polk was married to Nellie and living at 2107 Newton in the same precinct.
The Sheltons are mentioned in Robert Caro's biography.
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Fitchburg Sentinel June 27, 1967
Navy Nephew
AUSTIN, Tex. (AP) - Rodney White, a nephew of President Johnson, has joined the Navy Reserve for a six-year enlistment.
White, 19, is the son of the late Col. and Mrs. Willard White, according to the Austin Naval Reserve Training Center which made the announcement Monday. His mother was the former Josefa Johnson, the President's sister, the Navy records showed. He will serve on active duty for two years after a year of intensive training at the center.
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By Garth Jones, Associated Press writer, Sept. 29, 1967
AUSTIN, Tex. (AP) — President Lyndon B. Johnson's side of the family has a predominant family trait: They let him do the talking, all of it Despite the millions of word printed and broadcast about the President, many persons do not know that he has two sisters and a brother. Most of those who do, know very little more
than that. "It's nobody else's business what the President's family does," said an Austin spokesman for the President when asked merely where a kinsman of Johnson now lives. A close relative said Johnson's sisters and his brother feel that the President is the newsmaker and they should stay out of the picture.
Most queries to the White House staff about details of the LBJ family are answered with: "That is considered a private family matter." Johnson's parents, Sam Ealy
Johnson Jr. and Miss Rebekah Baines, were married Aug. 20, 1907, at Fredericksburg in west central Texas. They set up housekeeping in a small house on the north bank of the Pedernales River near Stonewall, about 16 miles east of Fredericksburg. The first of their five children Lyndon Barnes Johnson, was born there Aug. 27, 1908. The others, in order of birth, were Rebekah, now Mrs. Oscar Bobbitt of Austin; Josefa, who died in 1962 as Mrs. James B. Moss of Fredericksburg; Sam Houston Johnson of Austin, and Lucia, now Mrs. Birge Davis Alexander of Memphis, Tenn. The President's father died in 1937, his mother in 1958. The remaining members of the President's family shy away from publicity.
In a rare interview last year in Columbia, S.C., Mrs. Bobbitt remarked: "Everywhere I've gone, I've had the problem of being Lyndon's sister. Since he's gotten to be President, I've given up—it's bigger than both of us."
Mrs. Bobbitt does not see much of her famous brother. There usually are a couple of visits to the White House each year and a family reunion and Christmas at the ranch, Mrs. Bobbitt's husband is senior vice president of KTBC Television in Austin, which is owned by the Lyndon B. Johnson family interests, and also is radio station manager and general sales manager. He has been with KTBC since 1950. The Bobbitts own a large hilltop house in one of Austin's most expensive neighborhoods and are (prominent in civic and social affairs.
The Bobbitts' 19-year-old son, Phillip, attended Princeton University but left to join Volunteers in Service to America—VISTA. He was severely beaten by a gang of youths soon after being assigned to a VISTA job in Venice, Calif., earlier this year and returned to Austin for medical treatment. Phillip refused to discuss the attack in detail and went back to Venice as soon as his doctor allowed. Mrs. Alexander's husband is area manager for the Federal Aviation Agency in Memphis.
Memphis reporters say they can't even obtain Mrs. Alexander's telephone number. Newsmen were told by Alexander that his wife "guards her privacy and refuses under any circumstances to discuss her brother, other members of her family, their private life or such that might be published."
The President's only brother calls Austin home; but residents seldom see or hear of him. One published account says he received a law degree from Cumberland University at Lebanon, Tenn., but never practiced law. He became a member of his brother's congressional staff in 1937. About 1958, Sam Houston Johnson suffered a fractured hip in a fall. The injury resulted in a physical disability and led to his retirement. Newspaper files show the brother was divorced in 1963 from Mary M. Johnson, whom he had married at Vera Cruz, Mexico, in 1955. They had been separated since 1960. There were no children. Sam Houston Johnson lived with the Bobbitts for several years after 1960. The Austin spokesman for the President said recently that he "just couldn't say" if the brother still lived with the Bobbitts. In 1964, he was reported to be in a hospital at Myrtle Beach, S.C., suffering from pneumonia and a kidney infection.
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A Sept. 26, 1958 story which appeared in the San Antonio Express concerned the son of Samuel Houston Johnson (born in Austin on 10-9-1942) from an earlier marriage. His mother had divorced Sam Houston Johnson after their separation during WWII and changed the boy's name from Samuel Summers Johnson to Creighton Summers George when he was legally adopted by his stepfather. His mother was Albertine Summers, who had been a congressional secretary. They also had an older daughter named Josefa Roxanne. According to this article, the daughter had been named in honor of Sam Houston Johnson's sister, "now Mrs. James B. Moss, wife of a Fredericksburg, Tex. minister."
The story also states that Sam's new wife is the former Mary Michelson of Austin and San Antonio.
The boy had learned of his real father and had come to Washington, D.C. to visit--staying in the Potomac Plaza Apts. with them.
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Rebekah Luruth Johnson
Marriage to Oscar Price Bobbit, Jr.
Monterey, Mexico --1941 10 May at Age: 30
Address: 2508 Jarratt Av, Austin, Texas 78703-0801 (1993)
Her husband was Birge Davis Alexander, born in 1912 in Minnesota. His father was Kay Lambert Alexander, Jr. who was a civil engineer doing road paving (like Herman Brown) living in Uvalde in 1930, but in 1920 Birge and his siblings lived with Kay's unmarried sister Donna Alexander while their father was working as a painter in Oklahoma. He died in Travis County (Austin) in 1989.
Birge's aunt Donna Alexander was born in Kentucky in 1879. In 1900, however, she lived in Travis County, Texas where her father was a surgeon. Her mother was Mary E. Alexander, born in Kentucky in 1853. She had a younger sister named Lillian/Lillie, whose married name was Law and who also lived with the family.
They lived in the same precinct and district (south of Riverside between Lamar and S. Congress) in 1900 as the family of Polk Shelton: John E. Shelton, a lawyer in 1900, would likely have been in the same social group with Dr. Alexander's family, the grandfather of the man Lucia Johnson married in 1933. Polk Shelton was born in October 1900; possibly Dr. Alexander, a surgeon in the area at the time, delivered him. The Sheltons lived many years west of S. Congress on Live Oak Street just north of W. Oltorf. In 1930 Polk was married to Nellie and living at 2107 Newton in the same precinct.
The Sheltons are mentioned in Robert Caro's biography.
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Fitchburg Sentinel June 27, 1967
Navy Nephew
AUSTIN, Tex. (AP) - Rodney White, a nephew of President Johnson, has joined the Navy Reserve for a six-year enlistment.
White, 19, is the son of the late Col. and Mrs. Willard White, according to the Austin Naval Reserve Training Center which made the announcement Monday. His mother was the former Josefa Johnson, the President's sister, the Navy records showed. He will serve on active duty for two years after a year of intensive training at the center.
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By Garth Jones, Associated Press writer, Sept. 29, 1967
AUSTIN, Tex. (AP) — President Lyndon B. Johnson's side of the family has a predominant family trait: They let him do the talking, all of it Despite the millions of word printed and broadcast about the President, many persons do not know that he has two sisters and a brother. Most of those who do, know very little more
than that. "It's nobody else's business what the President's family does," said an Austin spokesman for the President when asked merely where a kinsman of Johnson now lives. A close relative said Johnson's sisters and his brother feel that the President is the newsmaker and they should stay out of the picture.
Most queries to the White House staff about details of the LBJ family are answered with: "That is considered a private family matter." Johnson's parents, Sam Ealy
Johnson Jr. and Miss Rebekah Baines, were married Aug. 20, 1907, at Fredericksburg in west central Texas. They set up housekeeping in a small house on the north bank of the Pedernales River near Stonewall, about 16 miles east of Fredericksburg. The first of their five children Lyndon Barnes Johnson, was born there Aug. 27, 1908. The others, in order of birth, were Rebekah, now Mrs. Oscar Bobbitt of Austin; Josefa, who died in 1962 as Mrs. James B. Moss of Fredericksburg; Sam Houston Johnson of Austin, and Lucia, now Mrs. Birge Davis Alexander of Memphis, Tenn. The President's father died in 1937, his mother in 1958. The remaining members of the President's family shy away from publicity.
In a rare interview last year in Columbia, S.C., Mrs. Bobbitt remarked: "Everywhere I've gone, I've had the problem of being Lyndon's sister. Since he's gotten to be President, I've given up—it's bigger than both of us."
Mrs. Bobbitt does not see much of her famous brother. There usually are a couple of visits to the White House each year and a family reunion and Christmas at the ranch, Mrs. Bobbitt's husband is senior vice president of KTBC Television in Austin, which is owned by the Lyndon B. Johnson family interests, and also is radio station manager and general sales manager. He has been with KTBC since 1950. The Bobbitts own a large hilltop house in one of Austin's most expensive neighborhoods and are (prominent in civic and social affairs.
The Bobbitts' 19-year-old son, Phillip, attended Princeton University but left to join Volunteers in Service to America—VISTA. He was severely beaten by a gang of youths soon after being assigned to a VISTA job in Venice, Calif., earlier this year and returned to Austin for medical treatment. Phillip refused to discuss the attack in detail and went back to Venice as soon as his doctor allowed. Mrs. Alexander's husband is area manager for the Federal Aviation Agency in Memphis.
Memphis reporters say they can't even obtain Mrs. Alexander's telephone number. Newsmen were told by Alexander that his wife "guards her privacy and refuses under any circumstances to discuss her brother, other members of her family, their private life or such that might be published."
The President's only brother calls Austin home; but residents seldom see or hear of him. One published account says he received a law degree from Cumberland University at Lebanon, Tenn., but never practiced law. He became a member of his brother's congressional staff in 1937. About 1958, Sam Houston Johnson suffered a fractured hip in a fall. The injury resulted in a physical disability and led to his retirement. Newspaper files show the brother was divorced in 1963 from Mary M. Johnson, whom he had married at Vera Cruz, Mexico, in 1955. They had been separated since 1960. There were no children. Sam Houston Johnson lived with the Bobbitts for several years after 1960. The Austin spokesman for the President said recently that he "just couldn't say" if the brother still lived with the Bobbitts. In 1964, he was reported to be in a hospital at Myrtle Beach, S.C., suffering from pneumonia and a kidney infection.
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A Sept. 26, 1958 story which appeared in the San Antonio Express concerned the son of Samuel Houston Johnson (born in Austin on 10-9-1942) from an earlier marriage. His mother had divorced Sam Houston Johnson after their separation during WWII and changed the boy's name from Samuel Summers Johnson to Creighton Summers George when he was legally adopted by his stepfather. His mother was Albertine Summers, who had been a congressional secretary. They also had an older daughter named Josefa Roxanne. According to this article, the daughter had been named in honor of Sam Houston Johnson's sister, "now Mrs. James B. Moss, wife of a Fredericksburg, Tex. minister."
The story also states that Sam's new wife is the former Mary Michelson of Austin and San Antonio.
The boy had learned of his real father and had come to Washington, D.C. to visit--staying in the Potomac Plaza Apts. with them.
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Rebekah Luruth Johnson
Marriage to Oscar Price Bobbit, Jr.
Monterey, Mexico --1941 10 May at Age: 30
http://books.google.com/books?id=_9sImYb5e...lt&resnum=2
Nazi plunder
By Kenneth D. Alford
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http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/goldp11.html
One of Goring’s field Marshall batons was taken by General [Boris] Patch. Upon his death it was placed in the West Point Military Museum. Lieutenant Eckberg took Goring’s second baton along with other items and mailed them to his mother in Chicago. Eckberg remained in Germany. His mother sold a gold medallion to a jeweler, who then placed an ad. The US Customs read the ad and recovered the medallion, the baton, and the other items the lieutenant had mailed home. Many other personal items were pillaged by soldiers, such as Goring’s dagger and sword. However, Lieutenant Colonel Willard White was probably the most prolific looter at the Berchtesgaden. He helped himself to a large collection of Hitler’s silverware and crystal items, mailing them home to his wife, the sister of Ladybird [sic] Johnson.91
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http://www.geneseo.edu/~leary/1269thECB/history.html
The battalion was activated at Camp Chaffee, AR on 30 March 1944.
A senior cadre was organized under the command of Major Willard White, and in April a core unit of 18-year-old ASTP volunteers and Army Air Corps trainees arrived for five months of engineer basic training. Many of that group were promoted to round out NCO cadre vacancies, after which replacements were brought in to fill the unit to T/O strength. The battalion moved by train to Camp Kilmer, NJ, arriving 18 Oct. 1944.
The battalion sailed unescorted from New York harbor aboard a converted luxury liner, the SS Mariposa, on 27 October, docking in Marseille, France on 6 Nov. 1944, after passing through a great storm. The unit marched to CP 2, a Mistral-buffeted, miserably cold staging area near Aix-en-Provence, spending three weeks in advanced training, demolitions mostly, (in which one trainee was killed) while waiting for equipment and vehicles. The battalion was now part of the U.S. Seventh Army....The 1269th was now functioning as combat arm of the Alsos Mission, the Military Intelligence assault force, commanded by Colonel Boris Pash, which was directed against the Nazi atomic weaponry program. In the final rush to seize the German atomic research center at Haigerloch, Alsos and the 1269th ECB, less Company B, crossed through the French First Army's spearhead column (which was moving on Sigmaringen and Stuttgart, contrary to Sixth Army Group command.)
On 22 April at Haigerloch, and for six days thereafter in the towns of Hechingen, Bisingen, Tailfingen, and Thanheim, the 1269th ECB participated in taking atomic scientists into custody, seizing laboratory records and equipment, and securing uranium, heavy water, and other items and materials important to the U.S./British Manhattan Project.
Leaving the Alsos Mission on 28 April, the battalion became one of the first combat units to enter Munich, advancing with Company C, 30th Reg't., of the 3rd Infantry Division. Elements of the battalion were among the first troops to come upon the concentration camp at Dachau. ...
Nazi plunder
By Kenneth D. Alford
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http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/goldp11.html
One of Goring’s field Marshall batons was taken by General [Boris] Patch. Upon his death it was placed in the West Point Military Museum. Lieutenant Eckberg took Goring’s second baton along with other items and mailed them to his mother in Chicago. Eckberg remained in Germany. His mother sold a gold medallion to a jeweler, who then placed an ad. The US Customs read the ad and recovered the medallion, the baton, and the other items the lieutenant had mailed home. Many other personal items were pillaged by soldiers, such as Goring’s dagger and sword. However, Lieutenant Colonel Willard White was probably the most prolific looter at the Berchtesgaden. He helped himself to a large collection of Hitler’s silverware and crystal items, mailing them home to his wife, the sister of Ladybird [sic] Johnson.91
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http://www.geneseo.edu/~leary/1269thECB/history.html
The battalion was activated at Camp Chaffee, AR on 30 March 1944.
A senior cadre was organized under the command of Major Willard White, and in April a core unit of 18-year-old ASTP volunteers and Army Air Corps trainees arrived for five months of engineer basic training. Many of that group were promoted to round out NCO cadre vacancies, after which replacements were brought in to fill the unit to T/O strength. The battalion moved by train to Camp Kilmer, NJ, arriving 18 Oct. 1944.
The battalion sailed unescorted from New York harbor aboard a converted luxury liner, the SS Mariposa, on 27 October, docking in Marseille, France on 6 Nov. 1944, after passing through a great storm. The unit marched to CP 2, a Mistral-buffeted, miserably cold staging area near Aix-en-Provence, spending three weeks in advanced training, demolitions mostly, (in which one trainee was killed) while waiting for equipment and vehicles. The battalion was now part of the U.S. Seventh Army....The 1269th was now functioning as combat arm of the Alsos Mission, the Military Intelligence assault force, commanded by Colonel Boris Pash, which was directed against the Nazi atomic weaponry program. In the final rush to seize the German atomic research center at Haigerloch, Alsos and the 1269th ECB, less Company B, crossed through the French First Army's spearhead column (which was moving on Sigmaringen and Stuttgart, contrary to Sixth Army Group command.)
On 22 April at Haigerloch, and for six days thereafter in the towns of Hechingen, Bisingen, Tailfingen, and Thanheim, the 1269th ECB participated in taking atomic scientists into custody, seizing laboratory records and equipment, and securing uranium, heavy water, and other items and materials important to the U.S./British Manhattan Project.
Leaving the Alsos Mission on 28 April, the battalion became one of the first combat units to enter Munich, advancing with Company C, 30th Reg't., of the 3rd Infantry Division. Elements of the battalion were among the first troops to come upon the concentration camp at Dachau. ...
Regarding Linda Minor's statement that "Very little is know about LBJ's younger brother Sam Houston, though it has been reported that he was in O.S.S. during WWII" a few weeks ago, I stumbled across a couple of newspaper clippings while browsing in the LBJ Mausoleum (Library) last year. Here's the first, having to do with passing bad checks in Myrtle Beach, I think it was in Oct. 1966
And here is another one, I believe it was also from 1966, though that isn't real clear. This time, Sam Houston Johnson was briefly jailed until it was realized what an important person he was
Thanks Linda, & Phil......
A bit further information.....
When LBJ was elected to the Senate in 1937.......
he hired his brother Sam Houston as his coffee greeter at $1,740.00 a year paid for by the House Administration .......he found a job for his sister Rebekah at the library of congress ,(she became a researcher ( Path to Power :Caro 81)... His father Sam had died that Oct.at 60 of a heart attack, his mother Rebekah ( also) wanted to keep busy, so she also became involved in research on Texas history which was helpful to LBJ........His three sisters , Josepha, Rebekah & Lucia also worked the phones during his run against Coke Stevens..in 1948......"Box 13"......getting out the vote.....
Sam Houston Johnson , divorced in 1944, had been working in the private industry, but then left to work as a $16,000 a year clerk for LBJ, he had trouble dealing with the tense atmosphere and Lyndon's full routine...He also had a terrible battle with the bottle, but overcame his weakness, entirley....By 1955 he had remarried, and after Lydon's serious heart attack in the same year flew back to the ranch with him....from "Sam Houston's Boy " Steinberg.68..
Sam Houston Johnson
Samuel Houston Johnson (January 31, 1914-December 11, 1978) was the younger brother of President Lyndon B. Johnson.
He was notorious for getting drunk and then talking to the press. Eventually, the Secret Service put him under surveillance. He died of lung cancer at 64, at the same age his brother was at his death. Sam wrote the book My Brother Lyndon after LBJ left the White House.
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Houston_Johnson"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Houston_Johnson
Sam Houston JOHNSON was born in 1914. Parents: Samuel Ealy JOHNSON II and Rebekah BAINES.
Spouse: Albertine SUMMERS. Sam Houston JOHNSON and Albertine SUMMERS were married.
Spouse: Mary MICHELSON. Sam Houston JOHNSON and Mary MICHELSON were married.
Sam wrote a Book in 1969 " My Brother Lyndon " Sam Houston Johnson....available for a penny,plus postage..
Critique :
Of the numerous persons to write books about Lyndon Johnson there is probably none as qualified to do so as Sam Houston Johnson. Sam Houston was LBJ's only brother. He lived with and worked for Johnson off and on for decades. In spite of the author's great admiration for LBJ, he is still willing to write critically of his brother. So this book combines knowledge of its subject matter with objectivity. This combined with a very readable writing style makes this book well worth reading.
This book was written in 1969, the year LBJ left office. According to author Booth Mooney, Johnson viewed this book as a huge betrayal by his younger brother. So much so that LBJ apparently quit talking to Sam Houston. That it caused such a rift is surprising since the book is basically favorable to LBJ. According to Mooney, the two brothers never reconciled before President Johnson's death in 1973.
In this book we see Sam Houston as the easy going prankster. This stands in contrast to the serious Lyndon. Not only did the author live with Lyndon and Lady Bird periodically during the 1940's and 50's but he also lived with them in the White House during much of the Johnson Presidency. So the author can speak authoritatively about not only his brother but many other politicians of that time.
Sam Houston Johnson shows that his brother was a loyal Vice President to John F. Kennedy. Both in public and in private LBJ defended Kennedy in spite of the bad treatment he received from Kennedy's men. And according to the author it was Lyndon who convinced Kennedy to send men to the moon.
The author contends that Secretary of Defense McNamara was two-faced and disloyal. He believes that if Johnson would have dumped McNamara sooner the Vietnam War might have ended much sooner. And LBJ would have been easily reelected in 1968.
The author also criticizes President Nixon. He states that as a candidate Nixon was irresponsible and opportunistic in his comments against Johnson.
http://www.amazon.com/Brother-Lyndon-Sam-H...n/dp/0402123115
Below photo of Lyndon & brother Sam Houston
B.....
A bit further information.....
When LBJ was elected to the Senate in 1937.......
he hired his brother Sam Houston as his coffee greeter at $1,740.00 a year paid for by the House Administration .......he found a job for his sister Rebekah at the library of congress ,(she became a researcher ( Path to Power :Caro 81)... His father Sam had died that Oct.at 60 of a heart attack, his mother Rebekah ( also) wanted to keep busy, so she also became involved in research on Texas history which was helpful to LBJ........His three sisters , Josepha, Rebekah & Lucia also worked the phones during his run against Coke Stevens..in 1948......"Box 13"......getting out the vote.....
Sam Houston Johnson , divorced in 1944, had been working in the private industry, but then left to work as a $16,000 a year clerk for LBJ, he had trouble dealing with the tense atmosphere and Lyndon's full routine...He also had a terrible battle with the bottle, but overcame his weakness, entirley....By 1955 he had remarried, and after Lydon's serious heart attack in the same year flew back to the ranch with him....from "Sam Houston's Boy " Steinberg.68..
Sam Houston Johnson
Samuel Houston Johnson (January 31, 1914-December 11, 1978) was the younger brother of President Lyndon B. Johnson.
He was notorious for getting drunk and then talking to the press. Eventually, the Secret Service put him under surveillance. He died of lung cancer at 64, at the same age his brother was at his death. Sam wrote the book My Brother Lyndon after LBJ left the White House.
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Houston_Johnson"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Houston_Johnson
Sam Houston JOHNSON was born in 1914. Parents: Samuel Ealy JOHNSON II and Rebekah BAINES.
Spouse: Albertine SUMMERS. Sam Houston JOHNSON and Albertine SUMMERS were married.
Spouse: Mary MICHELSON. Sam Houston JOHNSON and Mary MICHELSON were married.
Sam wrote a Book in 1969 " My Brother Lyndon " Sam Houston Johnson....available for a penny,plus postage..
Critique :
Of the numerous persons to write books about Lyndon Johnson there is probably none as qualified to do so as Sam Houston Johnson. Sam Houston was LBJ's only brother. He lived with and worked for Johnson off and on for decades. In spite of the author's great admiration for LBJ, he is still willing to write critically of his brother. So this book combines knowledge of its subject matter with objectivity. This combined with a very readable writing style makes this book well worth reading.
This book was written in 1969, the year LBJ left office. According to author Booth Mooney, Johnson viewed this book as a huge betrayal by his younger brother. So much so that LBJ apparently quit talking to Sam Houston. That it caused such a rift is surprising since the book is basically favorable to LBJ. According to Mooney, the two brothers never reconciled before President Johnson's death in 1973.
In this book we see Sam Houston as the easy going prankster. This stands in contrast to the serious Lyndon. Not only did the author live with Lyndon and Lady Bird periodically during the 1940's and 50's but he also lived with them in the White House during much of the Johnson Presidency. So the author can speak authoritatively about not only his brother but many other politicians of that time.
Sam Houston Johnson shows that his brother was a loyal Vice President to John F. Kennedy. Both in public and in private LBJ defended Kennedy in spite of the bad treatment he received from Kennedy's men. And according to the author it was Lyndon who convinced Kennedy to send men to the moon.
The author contends that Secretary of Defense McNamara was two-faced and disloyal. He believes that if Johnson would have dumped McNamara sooner the Vietnam War might have ended much sooner. And LBJ would have been easily reelected in 1968.
The author also criticizes President Nixon. He states that as a candidate Nixon was irresponsible and opportunistic in his comments against Johnson.
http://www.amazon.com/Brother-Lyndon-Sam-H...n/dp/0402123115
Below photo of Lyndon & brother Sam Houston
B.....
The strangest fact I have discovered is that the boy Josefa adopted in 1948--between her divorce from Willard White and her marriage to Rev. James B. Moss in 1955 (same year that Sam Houston Johnson married Mary Michelson Fish in VeraCruz, Mexico) is the following:
Rodney Baines White, who died in 1989 (reportedly from AIDS) was married to a member of European nobility.
http://www.thepeerage.com/p8647.htm
Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger
F, #86470, b. 30 October 1942
Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger|b. 30 Oct 1942|p8647.htm#i86470|Joseph Hopfinger|b. 14 Apr 1905\nd. 23 Aug 1992|p11178.htm#i111772|Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich|b. 10 Aug 1902\nd. 24 Jan 1993|p11178.htm#i111771|||||||Leopold S. Erzherzog von Österreich|b. 15 Oct 1863\nd. 4 Sep 1931|p11176.htm#i111752|Blanca d. C. de Borbón, Infanta d'España|b. 7 Sep 1868\nd. 25 Oct 1949|p10432.htm#i104313|
Last Edited=25 Jun 2005
Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger was born on 30 October 1942 at New York, U.S.A.. She is the daughter of Joseph Hopfinger and Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich. She married, firstly, Glenn Frederick Richardson on 2 December 1961. She and Glenn Frederick Richardson were divorced in 1966. She married, secondly, Lee Forrester Barr on 2 June 1969 at San Antonio, Texas, U.S.A.. She and Lee Forrester Barr were divorced in 1975. She married, thirdly, Dallas Sylvester Langford IV on 26 November 1974 at Austin, Texas, U.S.A.. She married, fourthly, Rodney Baines White on 12 October 1978 at Blanco County, Texas, U.S.A.. She and Rodney Baines White were divorced in June 1986. She married, fifthly, Roger Annen Farris on 16 June 1986. She and Dallas Sylvester Langford IV were divorced before October 1978.
From 2 December 1961, her married name became Richardson. From 2 June 1969, her married name became Barr. From 26 November 1974, her married name became Langford. From 12 October 1978, her married name became White. From 16 June 1986, her married name became Farris.
Children of Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger and Glenn Frederick Richardson
* Timothy Glenn Richardson+ b. 13 Aug 1962
* Tracy Elizabeth Richardson+ b. 1 Sep 1963
Child of Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger and Lee Forrester Barr
* Leigh Stephanie Assunta Barr+ b. 28 Jul 1972
I can find almost nothing about any of these people.
Rodney Baines White, who died in 1989 (reportedly from AIDS) was married to a member of European nobility.
http://www.thepeerage.com/p8647.htm
Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger
F, #86470, b. 30 October 1942
Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger|b. 30 Oct 1942|p8647.htm#i86470|Joseph Hopfinger|b. 14 Apr 1905\nd. 23 Aug 1992|p11178.htm#i111772|Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich|b. 10 Aug 1902\nd. 24 Jan 1993|p11178.htm#i111771|||||||Leopold S. Erzherzog von Österreich|b. 15 Oct 1863\nd. 4 Sep 1931|p11176.htm#i111752|Blanca d. C. de Borbón, Infanta d'España|b. 7 Sep 1868\nd. 25 Oct 1949|p10432.htm#i104313|
Last Edited=25 Jun 2005
Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger was born on 30 October 1942 at New York, U.S.A.. She is the daughter of Joseph Hopfinger and Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich. She married, firstly, Glenn Frederick Richardson on 2 December 1961. She and Glenn Frederick Richardson were divorced in 1966. She married, secondly, Lee Forrester Barr on 2 June 1969 at San Antonio, Texas, U.S.A.. She and Lee Forrester Barr were divorced in 1975. She married, thirdly, Dallas Sylvester Langford IV on 26 November 1974 at Austin, Texas, U.S.A.. She married, fourthly, Rodney Baines White on 12 October 1978 at Blanco County, Texas, U.S.A.. She and Rodney Baines White were divorced in June 1986. She married, fifthly, Roger Annen Farris on 16 June 1986. She and Dallas Sylvester Langford IV were divorced before October 1978.
From 2 December 1961, her married name became Richardson. From 2 June 1969, her married name became Barr. From 26 November 1974, her married name became Langford. From 12 October 1978, her married name became White. From 16 June 1986, her married name became Farris.
Children of Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger and Glenn Frederick Richardson
* Timothy Glenn Richardson+ b. 13 Aug 1962
* Tracy Elizabeth Richardson+ b. 1 Sep 1963
Child of Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger and Lee Forrester Barr
* Leigh Stephanie Assunta Barr+ b. 28 Jul 1972
I can find almost nothing about any of these people.
I just found something in Ancestry.com about the first husband of the woman Rodney married and the father of her two children--or at least the father of that husband, Glenn Frederick Richardson. According to his birth certificate, Albert G. Richardson was his father:
Albert Gerald Richardson was Adopted
Albert G. Richardson was found in a little white lace dress lying by a creek or river in Ballinger, Runnels County, Texas. Grace Pearl Kuykendall/Richardson and her husband, George Frederick Richardson, found him while on a church picnic. He was about two days old. It was rumored that his biological dad was a doctor with the last name of Love, practicing in Ballinger in 1903, the year Albert was born.
Additional information about this story
Location Ballinger, Texas
Attached to
* Albert Gerald Richardson (1903 - 1967)
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http://www.thepeerage.com/p8648.htm
Glenn Frederick Richardson
M, #86471, b. 23 October 1939
Last Edited=28 May 2005
Glenn Frederick Richardson was born on 23 October 1939 at San Antonio, Texas, U.S.A.. He married Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, daughter of Joseph Hopfinger and Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich, on 2 December 1961. He and Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger were divorced in 1966.
Children of Glenn Frederick Richardson and Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger
* Timothy Glenn Richardson+ b. 13 Aug 1962
* Tracy Elizabeth Richardson+ b. 1 Sep 1963
Lee Forrester Barr
M, #86472
Last Edited=28 May 2005
Lee Forrester Barr married Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, daughter of Joseph Hopfinger and Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich, on 2 June 1969 at San Antonio, Texas, U.S.A.. He and Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger were divorced in 1975.
Child of Lee Forrester Barr and Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger
* Leigh Stephanie Assunta Barr+ b. 28 Jul 1972
Dallas Sylvester Langford IV
M, #86473
Last Edited=28 May 2005
Dallas Sylvester Langford IV married Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, daughter of Joseph Hopfinger and Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich, on 26 November 1974 at Austin, Texas, U.S.A.. He and Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger were divorced before October 1978.
Rodney Baines White
M, #86474, b. 14 April 1948, d. 4 February 1989
Last Edited=28 May 2005
Rodney Baines White was born on 14 April 1948 at Biloxi, Mississippi, U.S.A.. He married Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, daughter of Joseph Hopfinger and Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich, on 12 October 1978 at Blanco County, Texas, U.S.A.. He and Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger were divorced in June 1986. He died on 4 February 1989 at age 40 at Santa Monica, California, U.S.A..
Reportedly, adopted son of Josefa Johnson, sister of Lyndon Baines Johnson; according to another report, he was the natural son of Sam Houston Johnson, LBJ's brother.
Roger Annen Farris
M, #86475
Last Edited=10 May 2003
Roger Annen Farris married Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, daughter of Joseph Hopfinger and Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich, on 16 June 1986.
Albert Gerald Richardson was Adopted
Albert G. Richardson was found in a little white lace dress lying by a creek or river in Ballinger, Runnels County, Texas. Grace Pearl Kuykendall/Richardson and her husband, George Frederick Richardson, found him while on a church picnic. He was about two days old. It was rumored that his biological dad was a doctor with the last name of Love, practicing in Ballinger in 1903, the year Albert was born.
Additional information about this story
Location Ballinger, Texas
Attached to
* Albert Gerald Richardson (1903 - 1967)
-------------
http://www.thepeerage.com/p8648.htm
Glenn Frederick Richardson
M, #86471, b. 23 October 1939
Last Edited=28 May 2005
Glenn Frederick Richardson was born on 23 October 1939 at San Antonio, Texas, U.S.A.. He married Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, daughter of Joseph Hopfinger and Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich, on 2 December 1961. He and Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger were divorced in 1966.
Children of Glenn Frederick Richardson and Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger
* Timothy Glenn Richardson+ b. 13 Aug 1962
* Tracy Elizabeth Richardson+ b. 1 Sep 1963
Lee Forrester Barr
M, #86472
Last Edited=28 May 2005
Lee Forrester Barr married Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, daughter of Joseph Hopfinger and Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich, on 2 June 1969 at San Antonio, Texas, U.S.A.. He and Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger were divorced in 1975.
Child of Lee Forrester Barr and Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger
* Leigh Stephanie Assunta Barr+ b. 28 Jul 1972
Dallas Sylvester Langford IV
M, #86473
Last Edited=28 May 2005
Dallas Sylvester Langford IV married Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, daughter of Joseph Hopfinger and Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich, on 26 November 1974 at Austin, Texas, U.S.A.. He and Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger were divorced before October 1978.
Rodney Baines White
M, #86474, b. 14 April 1948, d. 4 February 1989
Last Edited=28 May 2005
Rodney Baines White was born on 14 April 1948 at Biloxi, Mississippi, U.S.A.. He married Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, daughter of Joseph Hopfinger and Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich, on 12 October 1978 at Blanco County, Texas, U.S.A.. He and Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger were divorced in June 1986. He died on 4 February 1989 at age 40 at Santa Monica, California, U.S.A..
Reportedly, adopted son of Josefa Johnson, sister of Lyndon Baines Johnson; according to another report, he was the natural son of Sam Houston Johnson, LBJ's brother.
Roger Annen Farris
M, #86475
Last Edited=10 May 2003
Roger Annen Farris married Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, daughter of Joseph Hopfinger and Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich, on 16 June 1986.
Linda,
Why did you have to go and dig up THAT royal family....??
I am attempting to display the blood ties between Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, one-time spouse of Rodney Baines White,
and ,Maria Christina Erzherzogin von Österreich, wife of Emanuel Alfred Leopold Franz Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm, the great-grandson of the half-brother (Florentin Prinz zu Salm-Salm) of Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten.
Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten's son, was the father of Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten.
Alfred Wilhelm was the father of Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and of Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten.
Otto Viktor's children, Luise Marie Gräfin von Salm-Hoogstraeten, and Henry Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten, were first cousins of..... John Train.
Otto Viktor's brother Ludwig Albrecht 's son, Peter Alfed Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten, is the grandson of John D. Rockefeller's partner,
Henry Huddleston Rogers. Peter Alfed's aunt by marriage was John Train's aunt Maude.
Why did you have to go and dig up THAT royal family....??
I am attempting to display the blood ties between Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, one-time spouse of Rodney Baines White,
and ,Maria Christina Erzherzogin von Österreich, wife of Emanuel Alfred Leopold Franz Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm, the great-grandson of the half-brother (Florentin Prinz zu Salm-Salm) of Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten.
Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten's son, was the father of Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten.
Alfred Wilhelm was the father of Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and of Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten.
Otto Viktor's children, Luise Marie Gräfin von Salm-Hoogstraeten, and Henry Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten, were first cousins of..... John Train.
Otto Viktor's brother Ludwig Albrecht 's son, Peter Alfed Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten, is the grandson of John D. Rockefeller's partner,
Henry Huddleston Rogers. Peter Alfed's aunt by marriage was John Train's aunt Maude.
QUOTE
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11155.htm#i111542
Leopold II von Österreich, Holy Roman Emperor
Son=
http://thepeerage.com/p10133.htm#i101329
Josef Anton Joseph Baptist Erzherzog von Österreich
Daughter and son-in-law=
http://thepeerage.com/p10133.htm#i101325
Karl Ferdinand Erzherzog von Österreich
http://thepeerage.com/p10133.htm#i101330
Elizabeth Franziska Maria Erzherzogin von Österreich
Son=
http://thepeerage.com/p11187.htm#i111862
Friedrich Maria Erzherzog von Österreich = Father of Maria Christina Erzherzogin von Österreich
Brother of Josef Anton Joseph Baptist Erzherzog von Österreich=
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11156.htm#i111551
Ferdinando III Erzherzog von Österreich Granduca di Toscana
Son=
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11156.htm#i111556
Leopoldo II Erzherzog von Österreich Granduca di Toscana
Son=
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11078.htm#i110778
Karl Salvator Erzherzog von Österreich
Son=
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11176.htm#i111752
Leopold Salvator Erzherzog von Österreich
Daughter=
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11178.htm#i111771
Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich
Daughter=
http://www.thepeerage.com/p8647.htm#i86470
Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger
(She married, fourthly, Rodney Baines White on 12 October 1978 at Blanco County, Texas, U.S.A.. She and Rodney Baines White were divorced in June 1986.)
Leopold II von Österreich, Holy Roman Emperor
Son=
http://thepeerage.com/p10133.htm#i101329
Josef Anton Joseph Baptist Erzherzog von Österreich
Daughter and son-in-law=
http://thepeerage.com/p10133.htm#i101325
Karl Ferdinand Erzherzog von Österreich
http://thepeerage.com/p10133.htm#i101330
Elizabeth Franziska Maria Erzherzogin von Österreich
Son=
http://thepeerage.com/p11187.htm#i111862
Friedrich Maria Erzherzog von Österreich = Father of Maria Christina Erzherzogin von Österreich
Brother of Josef Anton Joseph Baptist Erzherzog von Österreich=
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11156.htm#i111551
Ferdinando III Erzherzog von Österreich Granduca di Toscana
Son=
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11156.htm#i111556
Leopoldo II Erzherzog von Österreich Granduca di Toscana
Son=
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11078.htm#i110778
Karl Salvator Erzherzog von Österreich
Son=
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11176.htm#i111752
Leopold Salvator Erzherzog von Österreich
Daughter=
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11178.htm#i111771
Assumpta Alice Erzherzogin von Österreich
Daughter=
http://www.thepeerage.com/p8647.htm#i86470
Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger
(She married, fourthly, Rodney Baines White on 12 October 1978 at Blanco County, Texas, U.S.A.. She and Rodney Baines White were divorced in June 1986.)
QUOTE
http://www.thepeerage.com/p9688.htm#i96879
Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm
M, #96879, b. 22 November 1762, d. 25 February 1828
Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm|b. 22 Nov 1762\nd. 25 Feb 1828|p9688.htm#i96879|Maximilian Friedrich Ernst Prinz zu Salm-Salm|b. 28 Nov 1732\nd. 14 Sep 1773|p9790.htm#i97891|Marie Luise Eleonore Landgräfin von Hessen-Rheinfels-Rottenburg|b. 18 Apr 1729\nd. 6 Jan 1800|p9790.htm#i97892|Nikolaus L. Prinz zu Salm-Salm|d. 1770|p9790.htm#i97899|Dorothea F. A. Prinzessin zu Salm|b. 21 Jan 1702\nd. 25 Jan 1751|p4614.htm#i46132|||||||
Last Edited=17 Aug 2003
Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm was born on 22 November 1762. He was the son of Maximilian Friedrich Ernst Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Marie Luise Eleonore Landgräfin von Hessen-Rheinfels-Rottenburg.
He married, firstly, Viktoria Felizitas Prinzessin zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rochefort on 31 December 1782 at Püttlingen, England.
Children of Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Viktoria Felizitas Prinzessin zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rochefort
* Marie Viktoria Prinzessin zu Salm-Salm b. 1784, d. 1786
* Florentin Prinz zu Salm-Salm+ b. 17 Mar 1786, d. 2 Aug 1846
He married, thirdly, Catherina Bender on 12 June 1810. He died on 25 February 1828 at age 65.
Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm gained the title of Prinz zu Salm-Salm.
Children of Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Catherina Bender
* Otto Ludwig Oswald Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 30 Aug 1810, d. 11 May 1869
* Eduard August Georg Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 8 Sep 1812, d. 18 May 1886
* Rudolf Hermann Wilhelm Florentin August Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 9 Sep 1817, d. 2 Dec 1869
* Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 3 Sep 1819, d. 2 Apr 1904
* Hermann Johann Ignaz Friedrich Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 13 Jun 1821, d. 24 Sep 1902
http://www.thepeerage.com/p4613.htm#i46123
Florentin Prinz zu Salm-Salm was born on 17 March 1786 at Senones. He was the son of Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Viktoria Felizitas Prinzessin zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rochefort. He married Flaminia Rossi on 21 July 1810 at Schloss Napoleonshohe. He died on 2 August 1846 at age 60 at Anhalt.
Children of Flaminia Rossi and Florentin Prinz zu Salm-Salm
* Alfred Prinz zu Salm-Salm+ b. 27 Dec 1814, d. 5 Oct 1886
* Emil Prinz zu Salm-Salm+ b. 6 Apr 1820, d. 27 Jun 1858
* Felix Prinz zu Salm-Salm b. 25 Dec 1828, d. 18 Aug 1870
http://www.thepeerage.com/p4613.htm#i46121
Alfred Prinz zu Salm-Salm was born on 27 December 1814 at Anhalt. He was the son of Florentin Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Flaminia Rossi. He married Auguste Prinzessin von Croÿ, daughter of Ferdinand Victurnien Philippe Prinz von Croÿ and Princesse Constance Anne Louise de Croy-Solre, on 13 June 1836 at Roeulx.
Children of Alfred Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Auguste Prinzessin von Croÿ
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# Alfred XII Fürst zu Salm-Salm+ b. 13 Mar 1846, d. 20 Apr 1923
http://www.thepeerage.com/p4612.htm#i46119
Alfred XII Fürst zu Salm-Salm was born on 13 March 1846 at Anhalt. He was the son of Alfred Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Auguste Prinzessin von Croÿ. He married Rosa Gräfin von Lutzow on 18 October 1869.
Children of Alfred XII Fürst zu Salm-Salm and Rosa Gräfin von Lutzow
* Emanuel Alfred Leopold Franz Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm+ b. 30 Nov 1871, d. 19 Aug 19161
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11174.htm#i111739
Emanuel Alfred Leopold Franz Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm was born on 30 November 1871 at Münster, Westphalen, Germany.2 He was the son of Alfred XII Fürst zu Salm-Salm and Rosa Gräfin von Lutzow.2 He married Maria Christina Erzherzogin von Österreich, daughter of Friedrich Maria Erzherzog von Österreich and Isabelle Hedwig Franziska Natalie Prinzessin von Croÿ, on 10 May 1902 at Vienna, Austria.2 He died on 19 August 1916 at age 44 at Pinsk, killed in action.2
Emanuel Alfred Leopold Franz Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm gained the title of Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm.1 He fought in the First World War.
Children of Emanuel Alfred Leopold Franz Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm and Maria Christina Erzherzogin von Österreich
* Isabelle Prinzessin zu Salm-Salm+ b. 13 Feb 1903
* Rosemary Friederike Isabella Eleonore Henriette Antonia Prinzessin zu Salm-Salm+ b. 13 Apr 19041
* Nikolaus XIII Fürst zu Salm-Salm+ b. 14 Feb 1906, d. 15 Jan 1988
* Cäcilie Prinzessin zu Salm-Salm+ b. 8 Mar 1911, d. 11 Mar 1991
http://www.thepeerage.com/p9786.htm#i97852
Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten
M, #97852, b. 3 September 1819, d. 2 April 1904
Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 3 Sep 1819\nd. 2 Apr 1904|p9786.htm#i97852|Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm|b. 22 Nov 1762\nd. 25 Feb 1828|p9688.htm#i96879|Catherina Bender|b. 19 Jan 1791\nd. 13 Mar 1831|p9689.htm#i96882|Maximilian F. E. Prinz zu Salm-Salm|b. 28 Nov 1732\nd. 14 Sep 1773|p9790.htm#i97891|Marie L. E. Landgräfin von Hessen-Rheinfels-Rottenburg|b. 18 Apr 1729\nd. 6 Jan 1800|p9790.htm#i97892|||||||
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Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten was born on 3 September 1819 at Anhalt. He was the son of Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Catherina Bender. He married Louise Gräfin von Bohlen on 13 August 1843 at Aurich, Germany. He died on 2 April 1904 at age 84.
Children of Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Louise Gräfin von Bohlen
* Hermann Emil Constantin Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 16 Mar 1844, d. 4 Feb 1905
* Auguste Ottilie Gräfin von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 27 Sep 1845, d. 17 Nov 1928
* Otto Ludwig Wilhelm Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 9 May 1848, d. 23 Apr 1907
* Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 25 May 1851, d. 17 Jan 1919
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Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten
M, #97872, b. 25 May 1851, d. 17 January 1919
Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 25 May 1851\nd. 17 Jan 1919|p9788.htm#i97872|Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 3 Sep 1819\nd. 2 Apr 1904|p9786.htm#i97852|Louise Gräfin von Bohlen|b. 21 Feb 1819\nd. 20 Oct 1875|p9786.htm#i97853|Konstantin A. J. Prinz zu Salm-Salm|b. 22 Nov 1762\nd. 25 Feb 1828|p9688.htm#i96879|Catherina Bender|b. 19 Jan 1791\nd. 13 Mar 1831|p9689.htm#i96882|||||||
Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten was born on 25 May 1851. He was the son of Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Louise Gräfin von Bohlen. He married Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger on 26 May 1884 at Reichenau, Germany. He died on 17 January 1919 at age 67 at Vienna, Austria.
Children of Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger
* Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 24 Feb 1885, d. 23 Jul 1944
* Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 25 Aug 1886, d. 1941
* Alfred Ludwig Arthur Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 8 Feb 1888, d. 10 Sep 1946
* Alexander Franz Albrecht Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 24 Jun 1890, d. 24 Jul 1918
http://www.thepeerage.com/p9788.htm
Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger was born on 9 October 1863 at London, England. She married Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten, son of Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Louise Gräfin von Bohlen, on 26 May 1884 at Reichenau, Germany. She died in 1944 at Budapest, Hungary.
Her married name became von Salm-Hoogstraeten.
Children of Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger and Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten
* Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 24 Feb 1885, d. 23 Jul 1944
* Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 25 Aug 1886, d. 1941
* Alfred Ludwig Arthur Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 8 Feb 1888, d. 10 Sep 1946
* Alexander Franz Albrecht Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 24 Jun 1890, d. 24 Jul 1918
Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten
M, #97874, b. 24 February 1885, d. 23 July 1944
Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 24 Feb 1885\nd. 23 Jul 1944|p9788.htm#i97874|Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 25 May 1851\nd. 17 Jan 1919|p9788.htm#i97872|Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger|b. 9 Oct 1863\nd. 1944|p9788.htm#i97873|Albrecht F. L. J. Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 3 Sep 1819\nd. 2 Apr 1904|p9786.htm#i97852|Louise Gräfin von Bohlen|b. 21 Feb 1819\nd. 20 Oct 1875|p9786.htm#i97853|||||||
Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten was born on 24 February 1885. He was the son of Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger. He married, firstly, Anne-Marie von Kramsta on 30 June 1909 at Reichenau, Germany. He married, secondly, Millicent Rogers on 8 January 1924. He died on 23 July 1944 at age 59 at Budapest, Hungary.
Child of Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Millicent Rogers
* Peter Alfed Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 27 Sep 1925...
....Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten
M, #97878, b. 25 August 1886, d. 1941
Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 25 Aug 1886\nd. 1941|p9788.htm#i97878|Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 25 May 1851\nd. 17 Jan 1919|p9788.htm#i97872|Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger|b. 9 Oct 1863\nd. 1944|p9788.htm#i97873|Albrecht F. L. J. Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 3 Sep 1819\nd. 2 Apr 1904|p9786.htm#i97852|Louise Gräfin von Bohlen|b. 21 Feb 1819\nd. 20 Oct 1875|p9786.htm#i97853|||||||
Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten was born on 25 August 1886 at Trautenberg. He was the son of Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger. He married Maud Coster on 26 May 1915 at New York, U.S.A.. He died in 1941 at Rapallo, Italy.
Children of Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Maud Coster
* Luise Marie Gräfin von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 25 Feb 1917, d. 17 Jun 1951
* Henry Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 17 Mar 1919
Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm
M, #96879, b. 22 November 1762, d. 25 February 1828
Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm|b. 22 Nov 1762\nd. 25 Feb 1828|p9688.htm#i96879|Maximilian Friedrich Ernst Prinz zu Salm-Salm|b. 28 Nov 1732\nd. 14 Sep 1773|p9790.htm#i97891|Marie Luise Eleonore Landgräfin von Hessen-Rheinfels-Rottenburg|b. 18 Apr 1729\nd. 6 Jan 1800|p9790.htm#i97892|Nikolaus L. Prinz zu Salm-Salm|d. 1770|p9790.htm#i97899|Dorothea F. A. Prinzessin zu Salm|b. 21 Jan 1702\nd. 25 Jan 1751|p4614.htm#i46132|||||||
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Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm was born on 22 November 1762. He was the son of Maximilian Friedrich Ernst Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Marie Luise Eleonore Landgräfin von Hessen-Rheinfels-Rottenburg.
He married, firstly, Viktoria Felizitas Prinzessin zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rochefort on 31 December 1782 at Püttlingen, England.
Children of Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Viktoria Felizitas Prinzessin zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rochefort
* Marie Viktoria Prinzessin zu Salm-Salm b. 1784, d. 1786
* Florentin Prinz zu Salm-Salm+ b. 17 Mar 1786, d. 2 Aug 1846
He married, thirdly, Catherina Bender on 12 June 1810. He died on 25 February 1828 at age 65.
Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm gained the title of Prinz zu Salm-Salm.
Children of Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Catherina Bender
* Otto Ludwig Oswald Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 30 Aug 1810, d. 11 May 1869
* Eduard August Georg Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 8 Sep 1812, d. 18 May 1886
* Rudolf Hermann Wilhelm Florentin August Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 9 Sep 1817, d. 2 Dec 1869
* Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 3 Sep 1819, d. 2 Apr 1904
* Hermann Johann Ignaz Friedrich Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 13 Jun 1821, d. 24 Sep 1902
http://www.thepeerage.com/p4613.htm#i46123
Florentin Prinz zu Salm-Salm was born on 17 March 1786 at Senones. He was the son of Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Viktoria Felizitas Prinzessin zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rochefort. He married Flaminia Rossi on 21 July 1810 at Schloss Napoleonshohe. He died on 2 August 1846 at age 60 at Anhalt.
Children of Flaminia Rossi and Florentin Prinz zu Salm-Salm
* Alfred Prinz zu Salm-Salm+ b. 27 Dec 1814, d. 5 Oct 1886
* Emil Prinz zu Salm-Salm+ b. 6 Apr 1820, d. 27 Jun 1858
* Felix Prinz zu Salm-Salm b. 25 Dec 1828, d. 18 Aug 1870
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Alfred Prinz zu Salm-Salm was born on 27 December 1814 at Anhalt. He was the son of Florentin Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Flaminia Rossi. He married Auguste Prinzessin von Croÿ, daughter of Ferdinand Victurnien Philippe Prinz von Croÿ and Princesse Constance Anne Louise de Croy-Solre, on 13 June 1836 at Roeulx.
Children of Alfred Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Auguste Prinzessin von Croÿ
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# Alfred XII Fürst zu Salm-Salm+ b. 13 Mar 1846, d. 20 Apr 1923
http://www.thepeerage.com/p4612.htm#i46119
Alfred XII Fürst zu Salm-Salm was born on 13 March 1846 at Anhalt. He was the son of Alfred Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Auguste Prinzessin von Croÿ. He married Rosa Gräfin von Lutzow on 18 October 1869.
Children of Alfred XII Fürst zu Salm-Salm and Rosa Gräfin von Lutzow
* Emanuel Alfred Leopold Franz Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm+ b. 30 Nov 1871, d. 19 Aug 19161
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11174.htm#i111739
Emanuel Alfred Leopold Franz Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm was born on 30 November 1871 at Münster, Westphalen, Germany.2 He was the son of Alfred XII Fürst zu Salm-Salm and Rosa Gräfin von Lutzow.2 He married Maria Christina Erzherzogin von Österreich, daughter of Friedrich Maria Erzherzog von Österreich and Isabelle Hedwig Franziska Natalie Prinzessin von Croÿ, on 10 May 1902 at Vienna, Austria.2 He died on 19 August 1916 at age 44 at Pinsk, killed in action.2
Emanuel Alfred Leopold Franz Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm gained the title of Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm.1 He fought in the First World War.
Children of Emanuel Alfred Leopold Franz Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm and Maria Christina Erzherzogin von Österreich
* Isabelle Prinzessin zu Salm-Salm+ b. 13 Feb 1903
* Rosemary Friederike Isabella Eleonore Henriette Antonia Prinzessin zu Salm-Salm+ b. 13 Apr 19041
* Nikolaus XIII Fürst zu Salm-Salm+ b. 14 Feb 1906, d. 15 Jan 1988
* Cäcilie Prinzessin zu Salm-Salm+ b. 8 Mar 1911, d. 11 Mar 1991
http://www.thepeerage.com/p9786.htm#i97852
Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten
M, #97852, b. 3 September 1819, d. 2 April 1904
Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 3 Sep 1819\nd. 2 Apr 1904|p9786.htm#i97852|Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm|b. 22 Nov 1762\nd. 25 Feb 1828|p9688.htm#i96879|Catherina Bender|b. 19 Jan 1791\nd. 13 Mar 1831|p9689.htm#i96882|Maximilian F. E. Prinz zu Salm-Salm|b. 28 Nov 1732\nd. 14 Sep 1773|p9790.htm#i97891|Marie L. E. Landgräfin von Hessen-Rheinfels-Rottenburg|b. 18 Apr 1729\nd. 6 Jan 1800|p9790.htm#i97892|||||||
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Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten was born on 3 September 1819 at Anhalt. He was the son of Konstantin Alexander Joseph Prinz zu Salm-Salm and Catherina Bender. He married Louise Gräfin von Bohlen on 13 August 1843 at Aurich, Germany. He died on 2 April 1904 at age 84.
Children of Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Louise Gräfin von Bohlen
* Hermann Emil Constantin Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 16 Mar 1844, d. 4 Feb 1905
* Auguste Ottilie Gräfin von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 27 Sep 1845, d. 17 Nov 1928
* Otto Ludwig Wilhelm Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 9 May 1848, d. 23 Apr 1907
* Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 25 May 1851, d. 17 Jan 1919
http://www.thepeerage.com/p9788.htm#i97872
Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten
M, #97872, b. 25 May 1851, d. 17 January 1919
Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 25 May 1851\nd. 17 Jan 1919|p9788.htm#i97872|Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 3 Sep 1819\nd. 2 Apr 1904|p9786.htm#i97852|Louise Gräfin von Bohlen|b. 21 Feb 1819\nd. 20 Oct 1875|p9786.htm#i97853|Konstantin A. J. Prinz zu Salm-Salm|b. 22 Nov 1762\nd. 25 Feb 1828|p9688.htm#i96879|Catherina Bender|b. 19 Jan 1791\nd. 13 Mar 1831|p9689.htm#i96882|||||||
Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten was born on 25 May 1851. He was the son of Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Louise Gräfin von Bohlen. He married Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger on 26 May 1884 at Reichenau, Germany. He died on 17 January 1919 at age 67 at Vienna, Austria.
Children of Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger
* Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 24 Feb 1885, d. 23 Jul 1944
* Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 25 Aug 1886, d. 1941
* Alfred Ludwig Arthur Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 8 Feb 1888, d. 10 Sep 1946
* Alexander Franz Albrecht Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 24 Jun 1890, d. 24 Jul 1918
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Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger was born on 9 October 1863 at London, England. She married Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten, son of Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Louise Gräfin von Bohlen, on 26 May 1884 at Reichenau, Germany. She died in 1944 at Budapest, Hungary.
Her married name became von Salm-Hoogstraeten.
Children of Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger and Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten
* Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 24 Feb 1885, d. 23 Jul 1944
* Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten+ b. 25 Aug 1886, d. 1941
* Alfred Ludwig Arthur Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 8 Feb 1888, d. 10 Sep 1946
* Alexander Franz Albrecht Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 24 Jun 1890, d. 24 Jul 1918
Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten
M, #97874, b. 24 February 1885, d. 23 July 1944
Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 24 Feb 1885\nd. 23 Jul 1944|p9788.htm#i97874|Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 25 May 1851\nd. 17 Jan 1919|p9788.htm#i97872|Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger|b. 9 Oct 1863\nd. 1944|p9788.htm#i97873|Albrecht F. L. J. Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 3 Sep 1819\nd. 2 Apr 1904|p9786.htm#i97852|Louise Gräfin von Bohlen|b. 21 Feb 1819\nd. 20 Oct 1875|p9786.htm#i97853|||||||
Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten was born on 24 February 1885. He was the son of Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger. He married, firstly, Anne-Marie von Kramsta on 30 June 1909 at Reichenau, Germany. He married, secondly, Millicent Rogers on 8 January 1924. He died on 23 July 1944 at age 59 at Budapest, Hungary.
Child of Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Millicent Rogers
* Peter Alfed Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 27 Sep 1925...
....Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten
M, #97878, b. 25 August 1886, d. 1941
Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 25 Aug 1886\nd. 1941|p9788.htm#i97878|Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 25 May 1851\nd. 17 Jan 1919|p9788.htm#i97872|Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger|b. 9 Oct 1863\nd. 1944|p9788.htm#i97873|Albrecht F. L. J. Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten|b. 3 Sep 1819\nd. 2 Apr 1904|p9786.htm#i97852|Louise Gräfin von Bohlen|b. 21 Feb 1819\nd. 20 Oct 1875|p9786.htm#i97853|||||||
Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten was born on 25 August 1886 at Trautenberg. He was the son of Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Adolfine Baronin von Erlanger. He married Maud Coster on 26 May 1915 at New York, U.S.A.. He died in 1941 at Rapallo, Italy.
Children of Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and Maud Coster
* Luise Marie Gräfin von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 25 Feb 1917, d. 17 Jun 1951
* Henry Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten b. 17 Mar 1919
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Why did you have to go and dig up THAT royal family....??
I am attempting to display the blood ties between Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, one-time spouse of Rodney Baines White, and Maria Christina Erzherzogin von Österreich, wife of Emanuel Alfred Leopold Franz Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm, the great-grandson of the half-brother (Florentin Prinz zu Salm-Salm) of Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten.
Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten's son, was the father of Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten. Alfred Wilhelm was the father of Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and of Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten. Otto Viktor's children, Luise Marie Gräfin von Salm-Hoogstraeten, and Henry Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten, were first cousins of..... John Train.
Otto Viktor's brother Ludwig Albrecht 's son, Peter Alfed Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten, is the grandson of John D. Rockefeller's partner, Henry Huddleston Rogers. Peter Alfed's aunt by marriage was John Train's aunt Maude.
I am attempting to display the blood ties between Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, one-time spouse of Rodney Baines White, and Maria Christina Erzherzogin von Österreich, wife of Emanuel Alfred Leopold Franz Erbprinz zu Salm-Salm, the great-grandson of the half-brother (Florentin Prinz zu Salm-Salm) of Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten.
Albrecht Friedrich Ludwig Johann Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten's son, was the father of Alfred Wilhelm Karl Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten. Alfred Wilhelm was the father of Otto Viktor Alfred Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten and of Ludwig Albrecht Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten. Otto Viktor's children, Luise Marie Gräfin von Salm-Hoogstraeten, and Henry Alexander Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten, were first cousins of..... John Train.
Otto Viktor's brother Ludwig Albrecht 's son, Peter Alfed Constantin Maria Graf von Salm-Hoogstraeten, is the grandson of John D. Rockefeller's partner, Henry Huddleston Rogers. Peter Alfed's aunt by marriage was John Train's aunt Maude.
Can you find anything about who these real people were and what they were doing? What I'm assuming is that John Train handled their accounts at his investment company, which was given the code name WUSALINE by the CIA. It was this proprietary company for which WUBRINY was an asset. Question is how George de Mohrenschildt and Lee Harvey Oswald fit into that scheme.
http://www.joanmellen.net/truth.html
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At his 1976 confirmation hearings for the post of Director of Central Intelligence, a post into which he was elevated by Gerald Ford, Bush denied that he had any prior connection to the CIA. This was a falsehood. At the National Archives, and on the Internet, is a CIA document directed to its clandestine service (Record Number 104-10310-10271) that reveals that when, in the 1950s, Bush founded Zapata Oil, his partner was one Thomas J. Devine, who was not only an oil wildcatter, but a long-time CIA staff employee. Thomas Devine's name does not appear in the original papers of Zapata, but it does in the company Bush created shortly thereafter as “Zapata Offshore.”
This CIA document reveals that Thomas Devine had informed George Bush of a CIA project with the cryptonym WUBRINY/LPDICTUM. It involved CIA proprietary commercial operations in foreign countries. By 1963, Devine had become not a former CIA employee, but ‘a cleared and witting contact” in the investment banking firm which managed the proprietary corporation WUSALINE. WUBRINY involved Haitian operations, in which, the documents reveal, a participant was George de Mohrenschildt, the Dallas CIA handler of – Lee Oswald.
In late April 1963, in Haiti, de Mohrenschildt appeared to discuss investment possibilities. The CIA officer, the author of the document, named only as WUBRINY/1, had no idea of de Mohrenschildt's already long-standing CIA connections, and in particular his role in shepherding Oswald in Dallas. De Mohrenschildt could safely pursue CIA interests in Haiti because it was that month, April 1963, that Lee Oswald, his charge, moved from Texas to New Orleans, on the orders of the CIA, with Oswald reporting to – Hunter Leake.
A May 22, 1963 CIA document has de Mohrenschildt admitting he had “obtained some Texas financial backing” and had visited interested people In Washington regarding the candidacy of one M. Clemard Joseph Charles for President of Haiti, “as soon as Duvalier can be gotten out.” So we are reminded of CIA's efforts to influence the political configurations of other countries – an obvious example is CIA's obliging British Petroleum – for a price – and overthrowing Mohammed Mossadegh in Iran, replacing him with the Shah.
To summarize: George Bush is linked in April 1963, seven months before the Kennedy assassination, to a CIA project involving Lee Oswald's handler, Count Sergei Georges de Mohrenschildt through his own CIA partner, Thomas Devine. Bush and Devine later traveled to Vietnam together, a trip for which the Department of Defense issued Devine an interim “Top Secret” clearance. No surprise there: Devine obviously had never left the Agency.
This CIA document reveals that Thomas Devine had informed George Bush of a CIA project with the cryptonym WUBRINY/LPDICTUM. It involved CIA proprietary commercial operations in foreign countries. By 1963, Devine had become not a former CIA employee, but ‘a cleared and witting contact” in the investment banking firm which managed the proprietary corporation WUSALINE. WUBRINY involved Haitian operations, in which, the documents reveal, a participant was George de Mohrenschildt, the Dallas CIA handler of – Lee Oswald.
In late April 1963, in Haiti, de Mohrenschildt appeared to discuss investment possibilities. The CIA officer, the author of the document, named only as WUBRINY/1, had no idea of de Mohrenschildt's already long-standing CIA connections, and in particular his role in shepherding Oswald in Dallas. De Mohrenschildt could safely pursue CIA interests in Haiti because it was that month, April 1963, that Lee Oswald, his charge, moved from Texas to New Orleans, on the orders of the CIA, with Oswald reporting to – Hunter Leake.
A May 22, 1963 CIA document has de Mohrenschildt admitting he had “obtained some Texas financial backing” and had visited interested people In Washington regarding the candidacy of one M. Clemard Joseph Charles for President of Haiti, “as soon as Duvalier can be gotten out.” So we are reminded of CIA's efforts to influence the political configurations of other countries – an obvious example is CIA's obliging British Petroleum – for a price – and overthrowing Mohammed Mossadegh in Iran, replacing him with the Shah.
To summarize: George Bush is linked in April 1963, seven months before the Kennedy assassination, to a CIA project involving Lee Oswald's handler, Count Sergei Georges de Mohrenschildt through his own CIA partner, Thomas Devine. Bush and Devine later traveled to Vietnam together, a trip for which the Department of Defense issued Devine an interim “Top Secret” clearance. No surprise there: Devine obviously had never left the Agency.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=3
Report written by C. Frank Stone III about a meeting between his contact, WUBRINY/1 and George DeMohrenschildt at the WUSALINE office (Train, Cabot).
This is discussed by Russ Baker beginning on page 103 of Family of Secrets.
On page 106 he indicates WUSALINE was Train, Cabot, and that WUBRINY/1 was Devine. A few days later these men met with Col. Howard Burris "military adviser to Vice President Lyndon Johnson, with the prospect of meeting LBJ himself." The footnote following that sentence (fn 47) appears at page 510 and states:
"When George de Mohrenschildt came to Washington, he was accompanied by his wife Jeanne. LBJ's private secretary at the time of their visit was Marie Fehmer. According to Marie Fehmer's oral history, she was recruited to be Vice President Johnson's secretary in 1962, directly from her college sorority. She claimed not to have known him, to be surprised by the offer, and to be somewhat reluctant to accept it (see Marie Fehmer oral history interview, August 16, 1972, LBJ Library and Museum, Austin, Texas). But she was not unconnected herself. Her father, Ray, worked for D. Harold Byrd's military contracting firm LTV. And her mother, Olga, worked at Nardis Sportswear with Jeanne de Mohrenschildt and Abraham Zapruder. After working for LBJ, Marie Fehmer joined the CIA, where she became one of the top female supervisors; see William Marvin Watson with Sherwin Markman, Chief of Staff: Lyndon Johnson and His Presidency...p. 39."
Well Linda, I've been able to find a few things about Jonh Train's aunt Maud and here husband Otto, and Otto's brother, Ludwig, married briefly to Millicent Rogers, and about their son, Peter. Maybe we can use these leads to find out more about Josefa Johnson's adopted son's wife, Ms. Hopfinger White.
Train's first cousin, H. Alexander, son of Otto and Maud:
(If he is alive, and I find mention of him on the web in 2006, born in 1919, he is 90 years old:
...and how about a JFK, West Palm Beach, Cassini-Wrightsman, connection, anyone ????
{More info on the family of Ethel C. Jones Taylor on the George DeMohrenschildt thread .....The family is from Louisville, KY and members are close freinds to Will S. Farish III, sometimes described as the "best friend" of GHW Bush.)
Linda, some info on Otto's brother, Ludwig's son, Peter, heir to his mother Millicent Roger's Standard Oil fortune:
So we have strong documentation that John Train's aunt Maud Coster Salm Hope, and her son, H. Alexander Salm, (John Train's first cousin....) were personal friends of Charlene Wrightsman, who seems to have been acquainted with George DeMohrenschildt, and was married at the time of her untimely 1963 death, to Russian Igor Cassini.....
The next step is to explore roads that could lead to a connection between the Salms and their distant royal relative who married LBJ's sister's adopted son, allegedly the illegitmate son of LBJ's brother, Sam Houston Johnson.
On edit, this seems up to date, at least as far as recent documentation of the ex-step-children/grandchildren of LBJ's sister's adopted son:
Train's first cousin, H. Alexander, son of Otto and Maud:
(If he is alive, and I find mention of him on the web in 2006, born in 1919, he is 90 years old:
QUOTE
http://www.kent.planyourlegacy.org/alex.php
H. Alexander Salm ’37
A native of Tuxedo Park, New York, but with European family ties in Austria, Alex Salm had been studying at the exclusive Institut Le Rosey in Switzerland when, in the spring of 1936, his former roommate Bill Seidler (who had earlier transferred from Le Rosey to Kent as a member of the Class of 1938) invited him for a visit. Thus, Alex found himself enrolled at Kent.
Among his many talents, Alex was already an accomplished flyer when he came to the School. After graduating from Dartmouth he distinguished himself in the Army Air Corps in WWII as a Flight Instructor, ultimately taking command of a B-29 Super Fortress in 44 missions over Japan. Following the war, Alex worked for the Rehabilitation Division of Hilton Hotels and then pursued a career in commercial real estate with Douglas L. Elliman & Co.
Although he spent less than a year and a half at Kent, the School left an indelible impression on Alex’s life. Drawn to Kent’s invigorating rural location; its steady rhythms of work, study, prayer, and play; its no-nonsense, self-help work program which expected the same from each boy and made no distinction among economic backgrounds; and its egalitarian student population, sustained by a unique sliding scale of tuition, Alex developed a self-reliant work ethic that has remained with him to this day.
H. Alexander Salm ’37
A native of Tuxedo Park, New York, but with European family ties in Austria, Alex Salm had been studying at the exclusive Institut Le Rosey in Switzerland when, in the spring of 1936, his former roommate Bill Seidler (who had earlier transferred from Le Rosey to Kent as a member of the Class of 1938) invited him for a visit. Thus, Alex found himself enrolled at Kent.
Among his many talents, Alex was already an accomplished flyer when he came to the School. After graduating from Dartmouth he distinguished himself in the Army Air Corps in WWII as a Flight Instructor, ultimately taking command of a B-29 Super Fortress in 44 missions over Japan. Following the war, Alex worked for the Rehabilitation Division of Hilton Hotels and then pursued a career in commercial real estate with Douglas L. Elliman & Co.
Although he spent less than a year and a half at Kent, the School left an indelible impression on Alex’s life. Drawn to Kent’s invigorating rural location; its steady rhythms of work, study, prayer, and play; its no-nonsense, self-help work program which expected the same from each boy and made no distinction among economic backgrounds; and its egalitarian student population, sustained by a unique sliding scale of tuition, Alex developed a self-reliant work ethic that has remained with him to this day.
QUOTE
Mrs. Maud C. Hope [ Married to Lawyer[
- New York Times - Jul 29, 1965
Coster Hope of Tuxedo Park, N. Y., widow of John G. Hope, to Stuyvesant Le Roy French, a lawyer of 196 l.ast 75th Street. I State Supreme Court Justice ..
MISS SALM IS KILLED; Daughter of Count Is Victim of an Accident in …
- New York Times - Jun 20, 1951
Miss Louise Maria Salm of this city and Tuxedo Park, N. Y., a daughter of the late Count Otto Salm-Hoogstraeten and of Mrs. John G. Hope, ...
JOHN GREGORY HOPE; The Husband of Former Maud Coster Dies in …
- New York Times - Apr 11, 1946
John Gregory Hope of 333 East Sixty-eighth Street, a British subject who served in the first World War as a captain in the Royal Air Force, died Tuesday in ...
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...4DF405B8188F1D3
OTTO SALM HOOGSTRATEN; Brother of Count Ludwig, Who Married …
- New York Times - Jul 22, 1941
... and two^ children, H. Alexander Salm, who Ms here with his mother, and Louise M. Salm, who is arriving here on Saturday after four years abroad. ...
OTTO SALM HOOGSTRATEN; Brother of Count Ludwig, Who Married Millicent Rogers, Dies
July 22, 1941, Tuesday
Section: OBITUARIES, Page 19, 170 words....
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...4DB405B868FF1D3
COUNTESS WINS DIVORCE.; Former Maud Coster in Reno Lays Cruelty to Salm-Hoogstraeten.
March 8, 1936, Sunday
RENO DIVORCE GIVEN TO WIFE OF COUNT SALM
Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 8, 1936
Countess Maud Coster Salm-Hoog- straeten, member of a prominent Ncw York family, obtained an uncontested divorce from Count Otto Salm-Hoog- straeten here ...
Countess Louise Salm's Debut.
- New York Times - Jan 19, 1936
Countess Otto Salm and Mr. and Mrs. Charles Ienry Coster gave a reception yesterday at the ColonyI Club to introduce Countess LouiseI Maria Salm, ...
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html...FB6678389639EDE
EIGHT LINERS LEAVE FOR EUROPE TODAY; Passenger Lists Swelled by …
New York Times - Oct 21, 1922
Otto Salm and Miss Louise Salm. The President Herding of the UnitecT ' l5tates Lines leaving for Cherbourg an8 Bremen to:lay and the Red Star liner 2 for ...
- New York Times - Jul 29, 1965
Coster Hope of Tuxedo Park, N. Y., widow of John G. Hope, to Stuyvesant Le Roy French, a lawyer of 196 l.ast 75th Street. I State Supreme Court Justice ..
MISS SALM IS KILLED; Daughter of Count Is Victim of an Accident in …
- New York Times - Jun 20, 1951
Miss Louise Maria Salm of this city and Tuxedo Park, N. Y., a daughter of the late Count Otto Salm-Hoogstraeten and of Mrs. John G. Hope, ...
JOHN GREGORY HOPE; The Husband of Former Maud Coster Dies in …
- New York Times - Apr 11, 1946
John Gregory Hope of 333 East Sixty-eighth Street, a British subject who served in the first World War as a captain in the Royal Air Force, died Tuesday in ...
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...4DF405B8188F1D3
OTTO SALM HOOGSTRATEN; Brother of Count Ludwig, Who Married …
- New York Times - Jul 22, 1941
... and two^ children, H. Alexander Salm, who Ms here with his mother, and Louise M. Salm, who is arriving here on Saturday after four years abroad. ...
OTTO SALM HOOGSTRATEN; Brother of Count Ludwig, Who Married Millicent Rogers, Dies
July 22, 1941, Tuesday
Section: OBITUARIES, Page 19, 170 words....
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...4DB405B868FF1D3
COUNTESS WINS DIVORCE.; Former Maud Coster in Reno Lays Cruelty to Salm-Hoogstraeten.
March 8, 1936, Sunday
RENO DIVORCE GIVEN TO WIFE OF COUNT SALM
Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 8, 1936
Countess Maud Coster Salm-Hoog- straeten, member of a prominent Ncw York family, obtained an uncontested divorce from Count Otto Salm-Hoog- straeten here ...
Countess Louise Salm's Debut.
- New York Times - Jan 19, 1936
Countess Otto Salm and Mr. and Mrs. Charles Ienry Coster gave a reception yesterday at the ColonyI Club to introduce Countess LouiseI Maria Salm, ...
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html...FB6678389639EDE
EIGHT LINERS LEAVE FOR EUROPE TODAY; Passenger Lists Swelled by …
New York Times - Oct 21, 1922
Otto Salm and Miss Louise Salm. The President Herding of the UnitecT ' l5tates Lines leaving for Cherbourg an8 Bremen to:lay and the Red Star liner 2 for ...
...and how about a JFK, West Palm Beach, Cassini-Wrightsman, connection, anyone ????
{More info on the family of Ethel C. Jones Taylor on the George DeMohrenschildt thread .....The family is from Louisville, KY and members are close freinds to Will S. Farish III, sometimes described as the "best friend" of GHW Bush.)
QUOTE
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=sto...380507691679829
GEM THEFT INQUIRY HUNTS POLICE CHIEF; Tuxedo Park Date Locked Up …
- New York Times - Sep 1, 1951
... awaiting Nassau grand jury action on charges of 'having stolen jewels valued ... Mr. and Mrs. Taylor .had been guests of H. Alex Salm at the Tuxedo Park ...
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...783D85F458585F9
Stolen Gems Found in Her Home Link Mrs. Taylor to Another Theft; MRS. TAYLOR'S HOME YIELDS LOST GEMS
August 31, 1951, Friday
MINEOLA, L.I., Aug. 30--A young matron, who had been arrested Tuesday on charges of stealing $10,000 worth of jewelry from a friend, was linked to a second jewel theft today after the police and her husband found in her closet a missing pair of diamond earrings valued at $1,200.
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=sto...1&scoring=a
New York Times - Aug 31, 1951
Mrs. Hope, by her first marriage, was the Countess Otto Salm-Hoogstraten. ... TAYLOR S HOME YIELDS LOST GEMS Continued From Page 1 Houston, Tex., ...
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=vIAEA...tolen+gems+salm
Rome News-Tribune - Aug 31, 1951
Probe Widened in Gem Thefts
Mineola, LI
...acting on search warrant, had recovered in the Taylor's New Hyde Park home, a pair of diamond earrings valued at $1200, stolen in a Tuxedo park jewel robbery last July 4.
The earrings he said, have been identified by Mrs. Charlene Wrightsman, daughter of the Texas oil millionaire, as part of $6000 jewelrt taken from her while a house-guest of Mrs. John Gregory Hope at Tuxedo. Mrs. Taylor was also a guest at the time.....
http://books.google.com/books?id=CYwluOC30...;q=&f=false
The road to Dallas: the assassination of John F. Kennedy - Google Books Result
by David E. Kaiser - 2008 - History - 509 pages
Wherever he went, de Mohrenschildt established himself as an extraordinarily ... he became well acquainted with Igor Cassini, brother of the dress designer
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/09/arts/igo...ml?pagewanted=2
Igor Cassini, Hearst Columnist, Dies at 86
By RICHARD SEVERO
Published: Wednesday, January 9, 2002
....Because of his friendship with Porfirio Rubirosa, an international playboy who had the job of inspecting Dominican embassies, Mr. Cassini had contacts within the Dominican government and said he would have been pleased if Martial could represent it. He always maintained that there was never a contract and that he never received any money from the Dominicans.
In the early 1960's he told Allen W. Dulles, director of the Central Intelligence Agency, and Joseph Kennedy, father of President John F. Kennedy, that Mr. Rubirosa had told him there were fears of a Castro-inspired coup in Santo Domingo. An alarmed president shortly thereafter dispatched Robert D. Murphy, a business executive who had been an undersecretary of state, on a confidential mission to the Dominican Republic, accompanied by Mr. Cassini, to see if a new Dominican-American relationship could be forged to thwart such a coup.
News of the unusual mission was published, most prominently in the Saturday Evening Post. The goverment was embarassed to be exposed as relying on a gossip columnist to help shape foreign policy. Mr. Cassini was charged with breaking a federal law requiring all agents of foreign governments to be registered. He at first pleaded not guilty but switched his plea to no contest because, he said, he feared the impact of a contested lengthy trial on his brother Oleg's relationship to Mrs. Kennedy.
After his trial and imposition of a $10,000 fine, Mr. Cassini lost his job with Hearst, and Martial lost most of its clients.
Charlene Wrightsman Cassini, then his third wife, took an overdose of sleeping pills soon after and died. The New York Medical Examiner's office listed her death as ''a probable suicide.''
Mr. Cassini was married five times. Austine Byrne McDonnell, who later married William Randolph Hearst Jr., divorced him, as did Elizabeth Darrah Waters. After the third Mrs. Cassini died, he married Nadia Mueller, and that marriage ended in divorce. Then he married Brenda Mitchell, and that marriage also ended in divorce.....
GEM THEFT INQUIRY HUNTS POLICE CHIEF; Tuxedo Park Date Locked Up …
- New York Times - Sep 1, 1951
... awaiting Nassau grand jury action on charges of 'having stolen jewels valued ... Mr. and Mrs. Taylor .had been guests of H. Alex Salm at the Tuxedo Park ...
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...783D85F458585F9
Stolen Gems Found in Her Home Link Mrs. Taylor to Another Theft; MRS. TAYLOR'S HOME YIELDS LOST GEMS
August 31, 1951, Friday
MINEOLA, L.I., Aug. 30--A young matron, who had been arrested Tuesday on charges of stealing $10,000 worth of jewelry from a friend, was linked to a second jewel theft today after the police and her husband found in her closet a missing pair of diamond earrings valued at $1,200.
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=sto...1&scoring=a
New York Times - Aug 31, 1951
Mrs. Hope, by her first marriage, was the Countess Otto Salm-Hoogstraten. ... TAYLOR S HOME YIELDS LOST GEMS Continued From Page 1 Houston, Tex., ...
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=vIAEA...tolen+gems+salm
Rome News-Tribune - Aug 31, 1951
Probe Widened in Gem Thefts
Mineola, LI
...acting on search warrant, had recovered in the Taylor's New Hyde Park home, a pair of diamond earrings valued at $1200, stolen in a Tuxedo park jewel robbery last July 4.
The earrings he said, have been identified by Mrs. Charlene Wrightsman, daughter of the Texas oil millionaire, as part of $6000 jewelrt taken from her while a house-guest of Mrs. John Gregory Hope at Tuxedo. Mrs. Taylor was also a guest at the time.....
http://books.google.com/books?id=CYwluOC30...;q=&f=false
The road to Dallas: the assassination of John F. Kennedy - Google Books Result
by David E. Kaiser - 2008 - History - 509 pages
Wherever he went, de Mohrenschildt established himself as an extraordinarily ... he became well acquainted with Igor Cassini, brother of the dress designer
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/09/arts/igo...ml?pagewanted=2
Igor Cassini, Hearst Columnist, Dies at 86
By RICHARD SEVERO
Published: Wednesday, January 9, 2002
....Because of his friendship with Porfirio Rubirosa, an international playboy who had the job of inspecting Dominican embassies, Mr. Cassini had contacts within the Dominican government and said he would have been pleased if Martial could represent it. He always maintained that there was never a contract and that he never received any money from the Dominicans.
In the early 1960's he told Allen W. Dulles, director of the Central Intelligence Agency, and Joseph Kennedy, father of President John F. Kennedy, that Mr. Rubirosa had told him there were fears of a Castro-inspired coup in Santo Domingo. An alarmed president shortly thereafter dispatched Robert D. Murphy, a business executive who had been an undersecretary of state, on a confidential mission to the Dominican Republic, accompanied by Mr. Cassini, to see if a new Dominican-American relationship could be forged to thwart such a coup.
News of the unusual mission was published, most prominently in the Saturday Evening Post. The goverment was embarassed to be exposed as relying on a gossip columnist to help shape foreign policy. Mr. Cassini was charged with breaking a federal law requiring all agents of foreign governments to be registered. He at first pleaded not guilty but switched his plea to no contest because, he said, he feared the impact of a contested lengthy trial on his brother Oleg's relationship to Mrs. Kennedy.
After his trial and imposition of a $10,000 fine, Mr. Cassini lost his job with Hearst, and Martial lost most of its clients.
Charlene Wrightsman Cassini, then his third wife, took an overdose of sleeping pills soon after and died. The New York Medical Examiner's office listed her death as ''a probable suicide.''
Mr. Cassini was married five times. Austine Byrne McDonnell, who later married William Randolph Hearst Jr., divorced him, as did Elizabeth Darrah Waters. After the third Mrs. Cassini died, he married Nadia Mueller, and that marriage ended in divorce. Then he married Brenda Mitchell, and that marriage also ended in divorce.....
QUOTE (John Simkin @ Jan 18 2005, 07:59 PM)
I share Robert’s view that Castro had nothing to do with JFK’s assassination. However, I disagree that JFK did not know about these CIA plots. In fact, there is evidence that suggests that JFK knew about them before he became president.
JFK was a long-term friend of Allen Dulles. In an interview he gave to the John F. Kennedy Library in 1964 Dulles admitted that he and JFK had “fairly continuous” contact throughout the 1950s. They two men met at JFK’s home in Palm Beach. (Dulles stayed with Charles B. Wrightsman, one of JFK’s neighbour).
Another JFK neighbour in Palm Beach was Earl Smith, the US ambassador to Cuba (1957-59). JFK had been having an affair with Earl’s wife, Florence Smith, since 1944 (it was JFK’s longest relationship and lasted until his death). Earl Smith knew about the plots against Castro. So did Dorothy Kilgallen who was the first journalist to write about the Mafia/CIA plots (New York Journal American – 15th September, 1959). Kilgallen was friendly with JFK (they were introduced by Florence – the two women worked together on the New York Journal American in the early 1940s). .....
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...ost&p=19238
JFK was a long-term friend of Allen Dulles. In an interview he gave to the John F. Kennedy Library in 1964 Dulles admitted that he and JFK had “fairly continuous” contact throughout the 1950s. They two men met at JFK’s home in Palm Beach. (Dulles stayed with Charles B. Wrightsman, one of JFK’s neighbour).
Another JFK neighbour in Palm Beach was Earl Smith, the US ambassador to Cuba (1957-59). JFK had been having an affair with Earl’s wife, Florence Smith, since 1944 (it was JFK’s longest relationship and lasted until his death). Earl Smith knew about the plots against Castro. So did Dorothy Kilgallen who was the first journalist to write about the Mafia/CIA plots (New York Journal American – 15th September, 1959). Kilgallen was friendly with JFK (they were introduced by Florence – the two women worked together on the New York Journal American in the early 1940s). .....
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...ost&p=19238
Linda, some info on Otto's brother, Ludwig's son, Peter, heir to his mother Millicent Roger's Standard Oil fortune:
QUOTE
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?um=1&...salm&cf=all
ROGERS $150,000,000 SHARED BY THREE; Colonel's Will Leaves Bulk of …
- New York Times - Aug 1, 1935
SON IS HELD TO $500000 Peter Salm, Son of Millicent Ramos, Will Have Home at Southampton.
Special to THE NEW YORK TIMES. RIVERHEAD, L.I., July 31. ...
COL. ROGERS' SON IS GIVEN $500,000 FUND IN WILL - Chicago Tribune
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/04/realesta...emain-open.html
In the Region/Long Island; 500 Acres of Scenic Hamptons Land to …
New York Times - Feb 4, 2001
... removed more than 500 acres in Southampton from the real estate market. ... But the Salm family chose to sell the property for about $25 million to Mr. ...
http://www.turtletrader.com/robins-island.pdf
Bringing Home Bacon -- text only
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View
Dec 13, 2004 ... When North Carolina-born Bacon bought Robins Island in December 1993 .... his brother Zack III, who works at Louis' company, Moore Capital .
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...4DD405B848BF1D3
Nature Conservancy Gaining Ground; Types of Land Sought
By BARBARA DELATINERSpecial to The New York Times
May 19, 1974, Sunday
SOUTHAMPTON - Peter Salm thinks "there is too damn much asphalt and chrome in the world and not enough greenery." Recently, as his contribution to "the battle to keep from sinking into urban sprawl," Mr. Salm who owns a 600-acre farm on Cow Neck in the North Sea section of this town, donated 20 acres to the South Fork-Shelter Island chapter of the Nature Conservancy. ...
April Bridal Set for Peter Salm And Baroness von Furstenberg
- New York Times - Feb 13, 1969
Peter A. Salm, who inherited a Standard Oil fortune created by his greatgrandfather, ... Mr. Salm, whose full name is Peter Alfred Constantin Salm, ...
More Troops Return to East Coast
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Sep 28, 1945
(A'- Peter Salm, son of Millicent Rogers and Count Ludwig Saim, Inherited $1703685';on his 21st birthday today, as well as the Southampton (N.Y.) mansion of ...
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...788D85F468485F9
CALLS DISTRIBUTION ONLY FARM WORRY; Dr. Nixon Tells Doylestown …
- New York Times - Mar 23, 1942
Among the graduates was Peter Salm, of New York City, valedictorian of his class. Salm, who attended high school in Italy, told the crowd of 1000 men and ...
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=WrcKA...=wed+peter+salm
Count Salm Wants His 14-year Old Son to Support Him .
St. Petersburg Times - Google News Archive - Mar 1, 1939
The son is Peter Salm. who at 14 is master of a 2390000 for tune left him by his grandfather the Standard Oil magnate, Henry H. Rogers. Peter was the child ...
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=2gANA...=wed+peter+salm
ROGERS $150,000,000 SHARED BY THREE; Colonel's Will Leaves Bulk of …
- New York Times - Aug 1, 1935
SON IS HELD TO $500000 Peter Salm, Son of Millicent Ramos, Will Have Home at Southampton.
Special to THE NEW YORK TIMES. RIVERHEAD, L.I., July 31. ...
COL. ROGERS' SON IS GIVEN $500,000 FUND IN WILL - Chicago Tribune
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/04/realesta...emain-open.html
In the Region/Long Island; 500 Acres of Scenic Hamptons Land to …
New York Times - Feb 4, 2001
... removed more than 500 acres in Southampton from the real estate market. ... But the Salm family chose to sell the property for about $25 million to Mr. ...
http://www.turtletrader.com/robins-island.pdf
Bringing Home Bacon -- text only
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View
Dec 13, 2004 ... When North Carolina-born Bacon bought Robins Island in December 1993 .... his brother Zack III, who works at Louis' company, Moore Capital .
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...4DD405B848BF1D3
Nature Conservancy Gaining Ground; Types of Land Sought
By BARBARA DELATINERSpecial to The New York Times
May 19, 1974, Sunday
SOUTHAMPTON - Peter Salm thinks "there is too damn much asphalt and chrome in the world and not enough greenery." Recently, as his contribution to "the battle to keep from sinking into urban sprawl," Mr. Salm who owns a 600-acre farm on Cow Neck in the North Sea section of this town, donated 20 acres to the South Fork-Shelter Island chapter of the Nature Conservancy. ...
April Bridal Set for Peter Salm And Baroness von Furstenberg
- New York Times - Feb 13, 1969
Peter A. Salm, who inherited a Standard Oil fortune created by his greatgrandfather, ... Mr. Salm, whose full name is Peter Alfred Constantin Salm, ...
More Troops Return to East Coast
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Sep 28, 1945
(A'- Peter Salm, son of Millicent Rogers and Count Ludwig Saim, Inherited $1703685';on his 21st birthday today, as well as the Southampton (N.Y.) mansion of ...
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...788D85F468485F9
CALLS DISTRIBUTION ONLY FARM WORRY; Dr. Nixon Tells Doylestown …
- New York Times - Mar 23, 1942
Among the graduates was Peter Salm, of New York City, valedictorian of his class. Salm, who attended high school in Italy, told the crowd of 1000 men and ...
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=WrcKA...=wed+peter+salm
Count Salm Wants His 14-year Old Son to Support Him .
St. Petersburg Times - Google News Archive - Mar 1, 1939
The son is Peter Salm. who at 14 is master of a 2390000 for tune left him by his grandfather the Standard Oil magnate, Henry H. Rogers. Peter was the child ...
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=2gANA...=wed+peter+salm
So we have strong documentation that John Train's aunt Maud Coster Salm Hope, and her son, H. Alexander Salm, (John Train's first cousin....) were personal friends of Charlene Wrightsman, who seems to have been acquainted with George DeMohrenschildt, and was married at the time of her untimely 1963 death, to Russian Igor Cassini.....
The next step is to explore roads that could lead to a connection between the Salms and their distant royal relative who married LBJ's sister's adopted son, allegedly the illegitmate son of LBJ's brother, Sam Houston Johnson.
On edit, this seems up to date, at least as far as recent documentation of the ex-step-children/grandchildren of LBJ's sister's adopted son:
QUOTE
http://almanachdegotha.org/_wsn/page8.html
The Almanach de Gotha 1763-2009
....2e) Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, b.New York 30 Oct 1942; m.1st 2 Dec 1961 (div 1966) Glenn Frederick Richardson (b.San Antonio 23 Oct 1939); m.2d San Antonio 1 Jun 1969 (div 1975) Lee Forrester Barr (b.9 Jan 1947); m.3d Austin 26 Nov 1974 (div 1975) Dallas Sylvester Langford IV (b.16 May 1942); m.4th Blanco County, Texas 12 Oct 1978 (div) Rodney Baines White (Biloxi, Miss. 14 Apr 1948-Santa Monica, California 4 Feb 1989; reportedly adopted son of Josefa Johnson, sister of Lyndon Baines Johnson; according to another report he was natural son of Sam Houston Johnson, LBJ's brother); m.5th 16 Jun 1986 [1 Jan 1986, per Willis] Roger Allen Farris (b.17 Sep 1943)
1f) Timothy Glenn Richardson, b.San Antonio 13 Aug 1962; m.Bexar Co., Texas 16 Jun 1983 Monica Khan
1g) Mark David Richardson, b.18 Jul 1982
2g) Steven Glenn Richardson, b.San Antonio 9 Aug 1985
2f) Tracy Elizabeth Richardson, b.San Antonio 1 Sep 1963; m.1st Austin 30 Sep 1982 (div 1993) Terence Lee McCarty (b.Atlanta 18 May 1959)
1g) Kyle Lee McCarthy, b.Austin 7 Jan 1983
2g) [by "common-law husband" Michael David White (b.26 Jan 1957)] Wyatt Michael White, b.Austin TX 23 Sep 1990
3f) Leigh Stephanie Assunta Barr, b.Eugene, Oregon 28 Jul 1972...
The Almanach de Gotha 1763-2009
....2e) Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger, b.New York 30 Oct 1942; m.1st 2 Dec 1961 (div 1966) Glenn Frederick Richardson (b.San Antonio 23 Oct 1939); m.2d San Antonio 1 Jun 1969 (div 1975) Lee Forrester Barr (b.9 Jan 1947); m.3d Austin 26 Nov 1974 (div 1975) Dallas Sylvester Langford IV (b.16 May 1942); m.4th Blanco County, Texas 12 Oct 1978 (div) Rodney Baines White (Biloxi, Miss. 14 Apr 1948-Santa Monica, California 4 Feb 1989; reportedly adopted son of Josefa Johnson, sister of Lyndon Baines Johnson; according to another report he was natural son of Sam Houston Johnson, LBJ's brother); m.5th 16 Jun 1986 [1 Jan 1986, per Willis] Roger Allen Farris (b.17 Sep 1943)
1f) Timothy Glenn Richardson, b.San Antonio 13 Aug 1962; m.Bexar Co., Texas 16 Jun 1983 Monica Khan
1g) Mark David Richardson, b.18 Jul 1982
2g) Steven Glenn Richardson, b.San Antonio 9 Aug 1985
2f) Tracy Elizabeth Richardson, b.San Antonio 1 Sep 1963; m.1st Austin 30 Sep 1982 (div 1993) Terence Lee McCarty (b.Atlanta 18 May 1959)
1g) Kyle Lee McCarthy, b.Austin 7 Jan 1983
2g) [by "common-law husband" Michael David White (b.26 Jan 1957)] Wyatt Michael White, b.Austin TX 23 Sep 1990
3f) Leigh Stephanie Assunta Barr, b.Eugene, Oregon 28 Jul 1972...
QUOTE
Well Linda, I've been able to find a few things about Jonh Train's aunt Maud and here husband Otto, and Otto's brother, Ludwig, married briefly to Millicent Rogers, and about their son, Peter. Maybe we can use these leads to find out more about Josefa Johnson's adopted son's wife, Ms. Hopfinger White.
Train's first cousin, H. Alexander, son of Otto and Maud Salm...
Train's first cousin, H. Alexander, son of Otto and Maud Salm...
Henry Alexander Salm was a crewman on the 50-foot sloop Angelique, belonging to Charles N. Granville during the 1950's--1954 in Newport, 1957 in the Bahamas and 1958 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil--which are documented.
Bridgeport Post, Nov. 2, 1958: "Mr. Granville... owns his own yacht, the 39-foot "Angelique,'' which he has sailed in several Newport-Bermuda, races, always finishing among the top eight. He is a resident of Wilton, living on Hurlbutt street with his wife Mary and their three children, Charles, 18, Richard, 16 and Judith, 12." Angelique, Inc. was the name of his canned aerosol soap company, for which the yacht was named. Another crew member was James E. Ivins, the father of columnist and author Molly Ivins of Texas.
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F10. Assunta Alice von Habsburg-Lothringen , Archduchess of Austria, * 1902, + 1993, Md. 1939 (div. 1950), Joseph Hopfinger , * 1905, + 1992.
* G1. Maria Teresa Margarita Hopfinger , * 1940, Md.1) 1961 (div. 1967), Edward Joseph Hetsko , Jr., * 1940.
o H1. Edward Joseph Hetsko, III , * 1962, Md. 1989, Laura Ann Bankston , * 1961.
*G2. Juliet Elisabeth Maria Assunta Hopfinger , * 1942, Md.1) 1961 (div. 1966)
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Charleston, W.Va. Gazette -- March 23, 1928
WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, March
22.—Mrs. Frederick Martin Davies arrived
from New York this morning
and will be Joined by her daughter,
Mrs. William H. Vanderbilt and Mrs.
Joseph Hoppin of New York later in
the week. Miss Audrey Davies, a
younger daughter will come Saturday
to Join her mother.
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New York Times--11-14-1901
The engagement has been announced In Washington of Miss Dorothy Rockhill, daughter of the Hon. William Woodyilie
Rockhill of Washington, to .Joseph Hoppin of Boston. Miss Rockhill, who has been studying art in Paris for about two years,
returned i three weeks ago from abroad. Her mother was Miss Tyson of Baltimore, a daughter-of Gen. Tyson of Philadelphia.
before her marriage to Mr. Rockhill, and Miss Rockhill was born in China at the time when her father was First Secretary.
to1 the American Legation.' at Peking. She was introduced about four years ago. Her mother died of a fever while Mr. Rockhill
was American. Minister to the Court at Athens. Nearly two years ago /'Mr. Rockhill married for his second wife Miss Edith Perkins of Connecticut. Mr. Hoppin is a son of the late Van Cortlandt Hoppin of Boston, and his mother was a daughter of Joseph Clark. Although wealthy, Mr. Hoppin is a professor in Bryn Mawr, where he owns a handsome residence.
Includes B&W photo of Josefa and her sister and brothers Sam and Lyndon, and color photo of Rodney as an adult,
along with an account of his life, death and funeral with no mention of his marriage:
Background on Rodney's former mother-in-law, the Archduchess. Photo of her as young woman on the page at the San Antonio cemetery link:
along with an account of his life, death and funeral with no mention of his marriage:
QUOTE
http://books.google.com/books?id=TC4EAAAAM...ite&f=false
Texas Monthly
Texas Monthly - Page 94
Magazine - Apr 1989 - v. 17, no. 4
Nearly forty mourners gathered under a green tent to pay their final respects to
forty-year-old Rodney Baines White, the adopted son of Josef a Moss, .
Texas Monthly
Texas Monthly - Page 94
Magazine - Apr 1989 - v. 17, no. 4
Nearly forty mourners gathered under a green tent to pay their final respects to
forty-year-old Rodney Baines White, the adopted son of Josef a Moss, .
Background on Rodney's former mother-in-law, the Archduchess. Photo of her as young woman on the page at the San Antonio cemetery link:
QUOTE
http://www.royaltyguide.nl/families/habsburg/hbltuscany2.htm
Assunta
1902-1993
child of Leopold Salvator
her grave in the San Fernando Cemetery, San Antonio/Texas.
http://gsteinbe.intrasun.tcnj.edu/bibli/M.htm
McIntosh, David. “The Archduchess from Texas: A Collection of Memoirs by Victoria McCraken, Granddaughter of Archduchess Assunta of Austria-Tuscany.” European Royal History Journal 7.2 (April 2004), 36-37.
http://www.eurohistory.com/main.php?process=1-7
ERHJ XXXVIII: April 2004
10- The Archduchess from Texas: Archduchess Assunta of Austria-Tuscany
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php...e;topic=10393.0
Title: Re: Archduchess Assunta of Austria
Post by: Svetabel on October 14, 2007, 01:29:56 AM
Some info from the wonderful book by David McIntosh "The Unkhown Habsburgs" :
"Assunta entered a convent in Barcelona with the intention of becoming a nun, but was forced to flee when the convent was destroyed during the Spanish Civil War in 1936...At the age of 37 Assunta married a Doctor, Joseph Hopfinger, who originated from Galicia. He was Jewish and as remaining in Europe at that time was unsafe, they emigrated to the USA. The couple, who had 2 daughters, Maria Teresa and Elisabeth, divorced in 1950. Assunta spent the rest of her life in Texas and died in San Antonio in 1993."
Assunta
1902-1993
child of Leopold Salvator
her grave in the San Fernando Cemetery, San Antonio/Texas.
http://gsteinbe.intrasun.tcnj.edu/bibli/M.htm
McIntosh, David. “The Archduchess from Texas: A Collection of Memoirs by Victoria McCraken, Granddaughter of Archduchess Assunta of Austria-Tuscany.” European Royal History Journal 7.2 (April 2004), 36-37.
http://www.eurohistory.com/main.php?process=1-7
ERHJ XXXVIII: April 2004
10- The Archduchess from Texas: Archduchess Assunta of Austria-Tuscany
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php...e;topic=10393.0
Title: Re: Archduchess Assunta of Austria
Post by: Svetabel on October 14, 2007, 01:29:56 AM
Some info from the wonderful book by David McIntosh "The Unkhown Habsburgs" :
"Assunta entered a convent in Barcelona with the intention of becoming a nun, but was forced to flee when the convent was destroyed during the Spanish Civil War in 1936...At the age of 37 Assunta married a Doctor, Joseph Hopfinger, who originated from Galicia. He was Jewish and as remaining in Europe at that time was unsafe, they emigrated to the USA. The couple, who had 2 daughters, Maria Teresa and Elisabeth, divorced in 1950. Assunta spent the rest of her life in Texas and died in San Antonio in 1993."
Bertita Harding--The Lost Waltz
CHARLESTON D A I L Y M A I L . S A T U R D A Y E V E N I N G , M A R C H 2 3 , 1946
Author Faces Damage Action
INDIANAPOLIS <AP>. — A suit filed in federal district court in the name of Assunta de Hapsburg Bourbon Hopfinger asks $100,000
damages from Bertita Harding on the allegation that Miss Harding's book, "Lost Waltz," depicts the plaintiff as a "queer, eccentric and immoral person." The "Lost Waltz" is written around the life of Archduke Leopold Salvator of Austria, a nephew of Emperor Franz Joseph. The book says Mrs. Hopfinger is the daughter of the archduke.
Sunday Feb. 3,1957 Anniston, Alabama Star
Books About Otto
Since Archduke Otto's visit to Anniston has created so much interest in him and his family some books have been called for which
give background to his life. The Hapsburg name came from the family castle in Switzerland, built in the llth century by Werner
Bishop of Strassburg. Its name was Habichtsburg, which means Hawk's Castle." The first member of the family to become a ruler
was Rudolph who was elected Holy Roman emperor in 1213.
The last of the family to hold a throne was Charles I, who gave up his title at the end of World War I. Archduke Otto, his son, made efforts during World War II to get back the throne.
Bertita Harding, an American biographer, has written a number of books on the Hapsburgs.
From childhood her imagination was captured by the tragic story of the Hapsburg dynasty. Her grandmother and former ladies
in waiting of the court told her stories of the royalty. Her books are the result of this keen interest and years of research.
"Golden Fleece" is the dramatic retelling of the life story of Franz Joseph and Elizabeth. This book opens with the pre-wedding
activities of the Emperor and his beautiful bride, and closes with his death. "Phantom Crown" is the chronicle of Napoleon III's attempt to rule Mexico through the agency of Archduke Maximillian, brother of Franz-Joseph. The first part of the book deals with his early life and marriage to Carlotta and with Napoleon's political plottings. The book ends w i t h Maximlllian's disastrous reign and fall, his death and Carlotta's return to Europe.
The story of Archduke Otto's father and mother, Karl and Zita, is told in Miss Harding'g book "Imperial Twilight" The deeply human qualities of these two are pictured In a most interesting fashion. Theirs Is the story of heroic frustration and the author very dramatically pictures their plight.
"The Lost Waltz" is the story of Archduke Leopold Salvatore. At the close of World War I the family fled to Spain, the native land
of the Archduke's wife. They lived here until the Spanish Civil War. This branch of the family had its ups and downs too. The genealogy of the Hamburg family is charted In this volume.
Tipton Daily Tribune - March 7, 1945, Tipton, Indiana
"The Lost Waltz" Is Reviewed At Art Association Meeting
Mrs. Vesta Larmore presided as the program chairman. She mentioned the fact that the book chosen for this March program, "The Lost Waltz," had recently been added to the list of best seller 'books.
Mrs. Larmore then presented Mrs. Carl Graf who gave the life of the author, Bertita Harding. She is a most fascinating person with an exceptional gift of association, and because of her own personal background and travels, as an impressario she has found just the right manner to present the historical Hapsburg aristocrats to the modern public.
Book Is Reviewed
Mrs. Robert Nichols was then introduced, and she gave the review of the book "The Lost Waltz" which is probably one of the last Hapsburg excursion's. It is a memoir of the family of the Archduke Leopold Salvalor, of Austria, nephew of the Emporer 'Franz Joseph, who married the Infanta Blanca of Castile, daughter of the pretender to the Spanish throne. The Infanta Blanca was a tempestuous artistocrat," a brilliant woman, who had also the rare gift of common sense, and believed firmly in the institution of
motherhood, 'presenting the Archduke with ten handsome, healthy children. This story, "The Lost Waltz" began in November: 1918 at the time of the Armistice at the end of World War I, -and continued to March 1944. It is the story of exile of the Hapsburg family from their home in Vienna, the gay prewar capital of Austria, [and they crowded -a variety of topsey-turvey activities and romantic excitements into their years in Italy, Spain, France, and the New World, and the postwar Austria which was also a foreign country. Their experiences while 'in exile might have been tragic to some, but through sheer force of personality, temperament, ingenuity and curiosity, they-made their own way, steadfastly holding to the humor of their situation, and with all good will accepted the transition from royalty to democracy, and they found in the dance of life, that the waltz did not go on forever.
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Daily Capital News - December 15, 1944, Jefferson City, Missouri
Ten children were born to the Archduke and the Archduchess Infanta of Spain. Of this considerable brood, Franz Joseph, Maria Antonia, and Assunta come to the fore; extraordinary happenings were destined to follow them. The story begins with the end of World War I. Little Frail Joseph returns from the rigorous Boys' Academy of Stella Matuina to find his family in hiding. A mob was marching on his father's castle; the Habsburgs were deposed and hunted. Immediate flight was imperative, and carrying jewels, scraps, of food, and barely a change of clothing, they made their eventful escape to Spain via Trieste and a steaia which was ordered, by wireless, turn back with the fugitives.
Happily ,the captain was carrying contraband and had reasons of his own for ignoring the order. Once admitted to Spain, life for the whole family, accustomed to having things done for them, became a struggle of doing for themselves. How well they took
to it is a tribute to them, makes you feel that exile was a wind that blew good, and furnishes most enjoyable reading. Nostalgia for old Vienna is there, cannot be denied, but, "The waltz did not-go on forever; it faded softly, and was lost . . ."That the waltz ended was perhaps just as well, for the dancers made themselves new and useful lives in a world which would have daunted lesser souls.
---------------
Name: Assunta L Hopfinger
Address: 1038 Fair Av, San Antonio, Texas 78223-0401 (1993)
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CHARLESTON D A I L Y M A I L . S A T U R D A Y E V E N I N G , M A R C H 2 3 , 1946
Author Faces Damage Action
INDIANAPOLIS <AP>. — A suit filed in federal district court in the name of Assunta de Hapsburg Bourbon Hopfinger asks $100,000
damages from Bertita Harding on the allegation that Miss Harding's book, "Lost Waltz," depicts the plaintiff as a "queer, eccentric and immoral person." The "Lost Waltz" is written around the life of Archduke Leopold Salvator of Austria, a nephew of Emperor Franz Joseph. The book says Mrs. Hopfinger is the daughter of the archduke.
Sunday Feb. 3,1957 Anniston, Alabama Star
Books About Otto
Since Archduke Otto's visit to Anniston has created so much interest in him and his family some books have been called for which
give background to his life. The Hapsburg name came from the family castle in Switzerland, built in the llth century by Werner
Bishop of Strassburg. Its name was Habichtsburg, which means Hawk's Castle." The first member of the family to become a ruler
was Rudolph who was elected Holy Roman emperor in 1213.
The last of the family to hold a throne was Charles I, who gave up his title at the end of World War I. Archduke Otto, his son, made efforts during World War II to get back the throne.
Bertita Harding, an American biographer, has written a number of books on the Hapsburgs.
From childhood her imagination was captured by the tragic story of the Hapsburg dynasty. Her grandmother and former ladies
in waiting of the court told her stories of the royalty. Her books are the result of this keen interest and years of research.
"Golden Fleece" is the dramatic retelling of the life story of Franz Joseph and Elizabeth. This book opens with the pre-wedding
activities of the Emperor and his beautiful bride, and closes with his death. "Phantom Crown" is the chronicle of Napoleon III's attempt to rule Mexico through the agency of Archduke Maximillian, brother of Franz-Joseph. The first part of the book deals with his early life and marriage to Carlotta and with Napoleon's political plottings. The book ends w i t h Maximlllian's disastrous reign and fall, his death and Carlotta's return to Europe.
The story of Archduke Otto's father and mother, Karl and Zita, is told in Miss Harding'g book "Imperial Twilight" The deeply human qualities of these two are pictured In a most interesting fashion. Theirs Is the story of heroic frustration and the author very dramatically pictures their plight.
"The Lost Waltz" is the story of Archduke Leopold Salvatore. At the close of World War I the family fled to Spain, the native land
of the Archduke's wife. They lived here until the Spanish Civil War. This branch of the family had its ups and downs too. The genealogy of the Hamburg family is charted In this volume.
Tipton Daily Tribune - March 7, 1945, Tipton, Indiana
"The Lost Waltz" Is Reviewed At Art Association Meeting
Mrs. Vesta Larmore presided as the program chairman. She mentioned the fact that the book chosen for this March program, "The Lost Waltz," had recently been added to the list of best seller 'books.
Mrs. Larmore then presented Mrs. Carl Graf who gave the life of the author, Bertita Harding. She is a most fascinating person with an exceptional gift of association, and because of her own personal background and travels, as an impressario she has found just the right manner to present the historical Hapsburg aristocrats to the modern public.
Book Is Reviewed
Mrs. Robert Nichols was then introduced, and she gave the review of the book "The Lost Waltz" which is probably one of the last Hapsburg excursion's. It is a memoir of the family of the Archduke Leopold Salvalor, of Austria, nephew of the Emporer 'Franz Joseph, who married the Infanta Blanca of Castile, daughter of the pretender to the Spanish throne. The Infanta Blanca was a tempestuous artistocrat," a brilliant woman, who had also the rare gift of common sense, and believed firmly in the institution of
motherhood, 'presenting the Archduke with ten handsome, healthy children. This story, "The Lost Waltz" began in November: 1918 at the time of the Armistice at the end of World War I, -and continued to March 1944. It is the story of exile of the Hapsburg family from their home in Vienna, the gay prewar capital of Austria, [and they crowded -a variety of topsey-turvey activities and romantic excitements into their years in Italy, Spain, France, and the New World, and the postwar Austria which was also a foreign country. Their experiences while 'in exile might have been tragic to some, but through sheer force of personality, temperament, ingenuity and curiosity, they-made their own way, steadfastly holding to the humor of their situation, and with all good will accepted the transition from royalty to democracy, and they found in the dance of life, that the waltz did not go on forever.
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Daily Capital News - December 15, 1944, Jefferson City, Missouri
Ten children were born to the Archduke and the Archduchess Infanta of Spain. Of this considerable brood, Franz Joseph, Maria Antonia, and Assunta come to the fore; extraordinary happenings were destined to follow them. The story begins with the end of World War I. Little Frail Joseph returns from the rigorous Boys' Academy of Stella Matuina to find his family in hiding. A mob was marching on his father's castle; the Habsburgs were deposed and hunted. Immediate flight was imperative, and carrying jewels, scraps, of food, and barely a change of clothing, they made their eventful escape to Spain via Trieste and a steaia which was ordered, by wireless, turn back with the fugitives.
Happily ,the captain was carrying contraband and had reasons of his own for ignoring the order. Once admitted to Spain, life for the whole family, accustomed to having things done for them, became a struggle of doing for themselves. How well they took
to it is a tribute to them, makes you feel that exile was a wind that blew good, and furnishes most enjoyable reading. Nostalgia for old Vienna is there, cannot be denied, but, "The waltz did not-go on forever; it faded softly, and was lost . . ."That the waltz ended was perhaps just as well, for the dancers made themselves new and useful lives in a world which would have daunted lesser souls.
---------------
Name: Assunta L Hopfinger
Address: 1038 Fair Av, San Antonio, Texas 78223-0401 (1993)
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Archduchess Assunta of Austria
Prince_Christopher:
Does anyone have any information on the life of Archduchess Assunta of Austria (1902-1993), daughter of Archduke Leopold and Blanca, Infanta of Spain? She was the younger sister of Archduke Anton who married Ileana of Roumania. Assunta married a Dr. Hopfinger and spent most of her life in the United States.
grandduchessella:
In 1946, the Archduchess sued Betina Harding for her portrayal of her as queer, eccentric and immoral in Harding's book The Last Waltz.
MarieCharlotte:
Quote from: José on October 14, 2007, 10:24:00 AM
Are there any pics/photos of the family ?
This wonderful book contains two rare pictures of Assunta as an adult. On the first one she is dressed as a nun and on the second one you can see her with her husband Dr. Joseph Hopfinger with whom she had two daughters.
If you compare her pictures to those of her sisters, Assunta was the most beautiful daughter of Leopold and Blanca.
There are also a lot of family pictures showing the ten children of Leopold Salvator - which means Assunta and her siblings - in earlier years. You could have a look at worldroots for example.
MarieCharlotte:
Quote from: Svetabel on October 14, 2007, 01:29:56 AM
Some info from the wonderful book by David McIntosh "The Unkhown Habsburgs" :
"Assunta entered a convent in Barcelona with the intention of becoming a nun, but was forced to flee when the convent was destroyed during the Spanish Civil War in 1936...At the age of 37 Assunta married a Doctor, Joseph Hopfinger, who originated from Galicia. He was Jewish and as remaining in Europe at that time was unsafe, they emigrated to the USA. The couple, who had 2 daughters, Maria Teresa and Elisabeth, divorced in 1950. Assunta spent the rest of her life in Texas and died in San Antonio in 1993."
Some additions:
Assunta entered the convent of the Carmelites of the Holy Teresa in Tortosa which is in the southwest of Barcelona in 1924. She stayed there unil the end of 1936 when the nuns had to flee for Roma. Because there were too many nuns in the monasteries, Pope Pius XI. released those who had relatives from their vow.
On 16 (civil) / 17 (religious) September 1939, Assunta married Dr. Joseph Hopfinger in Ouchy in the south of Lausanne (CH). Hopfinger was born on 14 March 1905 as the son of Aron Hopfinger and Sara Rachel Roth.
Their daughters are Maria Teresa (born Barcelona, 12 May 1940) and Juliette Elisabeth (born New York, 30 Oktober 1942). Juliette changed her name "Hopfinger" into "Habsburg-Bourbon".
Assunta and Hopfinger got divorced in San Antonio on 25 July 1950. Assunta didn't marry again and died at Saint Teresa's Academy (San Antonio, Texas) on 24 January 1993. She was 90 years old.
After the divorce, Hopfinger married a woman called Helen N. He also changed his name into Joseph Hoppin, but I don't know when. He died at Charleston (South Carolina) on 23 August 1992 aged 87.
Prince_Christopher:
Quote from: MarieCharlotte on October 17, 2007, 01:59:13 PM
This wonderful book contains two rare pictures of Assunta as an adult.
Forgive me, but two books were mentioned on this thread.
MarieCharlotte, are you referring to The Unknown Hapsburgs or The Last Waltz?
Prince_Christopher:
I wonder what the family situation was like. Anton is the only one of ten siblings who made an illustrious marriage, and wasn't he working at a gas station at some point? Another brother became a factory worker in the US. And it seems I remember reading that Leopold had a grocery store. Were some of the other daughters nuns? Did Assunta keep in touch with her royal relations?
***
MarieCharlotte:
Oh sorry, Prince Christopher! I was refering to The Unknown Hapsburgs - I don't even own the other book! ;-) If you are interested in these two pictures, I can post them, of course.
Britt, I got the information from one of Alois Jahn's books. I think we've talked about them before.
Eurohistory:
Archduchess Assunta's granddaughter wrote a memoir of her grandmother for the EUROPEAN ROYAL HISTORY JOURNAL. It was published by us about 4 years ago...a very nice and touching reminiscence.
Arturo Beeche
Eurohistory:
Signed copies of The Unknown Habsburgs are still available for purchase from eurohistory.com
Archduchess Assunta of Austria
Prince_Christopher:
Does anyone have any information on the life of Archduchess Assunta of Austria (1902-1993), daughter of Archduke Leopold and Blanca, Infanta of Spain? She was the younger sister of Archduke Anton who married Ileana of Roumania. Assunta married a Dr. Hopfinger and spent most of her life in the United States.
grandduchessella:
In 1946, the Archduchess sued Betina Harding for her portrayal of her as queer, eccentric and immoral in Harding's book The Last Waltz.
MarieCharlotte:
Quote from: José on October 14, 2007, 10:24:00 AM
Are there any pics/photos of the family ?
This wonderful book contains two rare pictures of Assunta as an adult. On the first one she is dressed as a nun and on the second one you can see her with her husband Dr. Joseph Hopfinger with whom she had two daughters.
If you compare her pictures to those of her sisters, Assunta was the most beautiful daughter of Leopold and Blanca.
There are also a lot of family pictures showing the ten children of Leopold Salvator - which means Assunta and her siblings - in earlier years. You could have a look at worldroots for example.
MarieCharlotte:
Quote from: Svetabel on October 14, 2007, 01:29:56 AM
Some info from the wonderful book by David McIntosh "The Unkhown Habsburgs" :
"Assunta entered a convent in Barcelona with the intention of becoming a nun, but was forced to flee when the convent was destroyed during the Spanish Civil War in 1936...At the age of 37 Assunta married a Doctor, Joseph Hopfinger, who originated from Galicia. He was Jewish and as remaining in Europe at that time was unsafe, they emigrated to the USA. The couple, who had 2 daughters, Maria Teresa and Elisabeth, divorced in 1950. Assunta spent the rest of her life in Texas and died in San Antonio in 1993."
Some additions:
Assunta entered the convent of the Carmelites of the Holy Teresa in Tortosa which is in the southwest of Barcelona in 1924. She stayed there unil the end of 1936 when the nuns had to flee for Roma. Because there were too many nuns in the monasteries, Pope Pius XI. released those who had relatives from their vow.
On 16 (civil) / 17 (religious) September 1939, Assunta married Dr. Joseph Hopfinger in Ouchy in the south of Lausanne (CH). Hopfinger was born on 14 March 1905 as the son of Aron Hopfinger and Sara Rachel Roth.
Their daughters are Maria Teresa (born Barcelona, 12 May 1940) and Juliette Elisabeth (born New York, 30 Oktober 1942). Juliette changed her name "Hopfinger" into "Habsburg-Bourbon".
Assunta and Hopfinger got divorced in San Antonio on 25 July 1950. Assunta didn't marry again and died at Saint Teresa's Academy (San Antonio, Texas) on 24 January 1993. She was 90 years old.
After the divorce, Hopfinger married a woman called Helen N. He also changed his name into Joseph Hoppin, but I don't know when. He died at Charleston (South Carolina) on 23 August 1992 aged 87.
Prince_Christopher:
Quote from: MarieCharlotte on October 17, 2007, 01:59:13 PM
This wonderful book contains two rare pictures of Assunta as an adult.
Forgive me, but two books were mentioned on this thread.
MarieCharlotte, are you referring to The Unknown Hapsburgs or The Last Waltz?
Prince_Christopher:
I wonder what the family situation was like. Anton is the only one of ten siblings who made an illustrious marriage, and wasn't he working at a gas station at some point? Another brother became a factory worker in the US. And it seems I remember reading that Leopold had a grocery store. Were some of the other daughters nuns? Did Assunta keep in touch with her royal relations?
***
MarieCharlotte:
Oh sorry, Prince Christopher! I was refering to The Unknown Hapsburgs - I don't even own the other book! ;-) If you are interested in these two pictures, I can post them, of course.
Britt, I got the information from one of Alois Jahn's books. I think we've talked about them before.
Eurohistory:
Archduchess Assunta's granddaughter wrote a memoir of her grandmother for the EUROPEAN ROYAL HISTORY JOURNAL. It was published by us about 4 years ago...a very nice and touching reminiscence.
Arturo Beeche
Eurohistory:
Signed copies of The Unknown Habsburgs are still available for purchase from eurohistory.com
QUOTE (Linda Minor @ Aug 13 2009, 04:43 PM)
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php...ic=10393.0;wap2
Archduchess Assunta of Austria
Prince_Christopher:
Does anyone have any information on the life of Archduchess Assunta of Austria (1902-1993), daughter of Archduke Leopold and Blanca, Infanta of Spain? She was the younger sister of Archduke Anton who married Ileana of Roumania. Assunta married a Dr. Hopfinger and spent most of her life in the United States.
grandduchessella:
In 1946, the Archduchess sued Betina Harding for her portrayal of her as queer, eccentric and immoral in Harding's book The Last Waltz.
MarieCharlotte:
Quote from: José on October 14, 2007, 10:24:00 AM
Are there any pics/photos of the family ?
This wonderful book contains two rare pictures of Assunta as an adult. On the first one she is dressed as a nun and on the second one you can see her with her husband Dr. Joseph Hopfinger with whom she had two daughters.
If you compare her pictures to those of her sisters, Assunta was the most beautiful daughter of Leopold and Blanca.
There are also a lot of family pictures showing the ten children of Leopold Salvator - which means Assunta and her siblings - in earlier years. You could have a look at worldroots for example.
MarieCharlotte:
Quote from: Svetabel on October 14, 2007, 01:29:56 AM
Some info from the wonderful book by David McIntosh "The Unkhown Habsburgs" :
"Assunta entered a convent in Barcelona with the intention of becoming a nun, but was forced to flee when the convent was destroyed during the Spanish Civil War in 1936...At the age of 37 Assunta married a Doctor, Joseph Hopfinger, who originated from Galicia. He was Jewish and as remaining in Europe at that time was unsafe, they emigrated to the USA. The couple, who had 2 daughters, Maria Teresa and Elisabeth, divorced in 1950. Assunta spent the rest of her life in Texas and died in San Antonio in 1993."
Some additions:
Assunta entered the convent of the Carmelites of the Holy Teresa in Tortosa which is in the southwest of Barcelona in 1924. She stayed there unil the end of 1936 when the nuns had to flee for Roma. Because there were too many nuns in the monasteries, Pope Pius XI. released those who had relatives from their vow.
On 16 (civil) / 17 (religious) September 1939, Assunta married Dr. Joseph Hopfinger in Ouchy in the south of Lausanne (CH). Hopfinger was born on 14 March 1905 as the son of Aron Hopfinger and Sara Rachel Roth.
Their daughters are Maria Teresa (born Barcelona, 12 May 1940) and Juliette Elisabeth (born New York, 30 Oktober 1942). Juliette changed her name "Hopfinger" into "Habsburg-Bourbon".
Assunta and Hopfinger got divorced in San Antonio on 25 July 1950. Assunta didn't marry again and died at Saint Teresa's Academy (San Antonio, Texas) on 24 January 1993. She was 90 years old.
After the divorce, Hopfinger married a woman called Helen N. He also changed his name into Joseph Hoppin, but I don't know when. He died at Charleston (South Carolina) on 23 August 1992 aged 87.
Prince_Christopher:
Quote from: MarieCharlotte on October 17, 2007, 01:59:13 PM
This wonderful book contains two rare pictures of Assunta as an adult.
Forgive me, but two books were mentioned on this thread.
MarieCharlotte, are you referring to The Unknown Hapsburgs or The Last Waltz?
Prince_Christopher:
I wonder what the family situation was like. Anton is the only one of ten siblings who made an illustrious marriage, and wasn't he working at a gas station at some point? Another brother became a factory worker in the US. And it seems I remember reading that Leopold had a grocery store. Were some of the other daughters nuns? Did Assunta keep in touch with her royal relations?
***
MarieCharlotte:
Oh sorry, Prince Christopher! I was refering to The Unknown Hapsburgs - I don't even own the other book! ;-) If you are interested in these two pictures, I can post them, of course.
Britt, I got the information from one of Alois Jahn's books. I think we've talked about them before.
Eurohistory:
Archduchess Assunta's granddaughter wrote a memoir of her grandmother for the EUROPEAN ROYAL HISTORY JOURNAL. It was published by us about 4 years ago...a very nice and touching reminiscence.
Arturo Beeche
Eurohistory:
Signed copies of The Unknown Habsburgs are still available for purchase from eurohistory.com
Archduchess Assunta of Austria
Prince_Christopher:
Does anyone have any information on the life of Archduchess Assunta of Austria (1902-1993), daughter of Archduke Leopold and Blanca, Infanta of Spain? She was the younger sister of Archduke Anton who married Ileana of Roumania. Assunta married a Dr. Hopfinger and spent most of her life in the United States.
grandduchessella:
In 1946, the Archduchess sued Betina Harding for her portrayal of her as queer, eccentric and immoral in Harding's book The Last Waltz.
MarieCharlotte:
Quote from: José on October 14, 2007, 10:24:00 AM
Are there any pics/photos of the family ?
This wonderful book contains two rare pictures of Assunta as an adult. On the first one she is dressed as a nun and on the second one you can see her with her husband Dr. Joseph Hopfinger with whom she had two daughters.
If you compare her pictures to those of her sisters, Assunta was the most beautiful daughter of Leopold and Blanca.
There are also a lot of family pictures showing the ten children of Leopold Salvator - which means Assunta and her siblings - in earlier years. You could have a look at worldroots for example.
MarieCharlotte:
Quote from: Svetabel on October 14, 2007, 01:29:56 AM
Some info from the wonderful book by David McIntosh "The Unkhown Habsburgs" :
"Assunta entered a convent in Barcelona with the intention of becoming a nun, but was forced to flee when the convent was destroyed during the Spanish Civil War in 1936...At the age of 37 Assunta married a Doctor, Joseph Hopfinger, who originated from Galicia. He was Jewish and as remaining in Europe at that time was unsafe, they emigrated to the USA. The couple, who had 2 daughters, Maria Teresa and Elisabeth, divorced in 1950. Assunta spent the rest of her life in Texas and died in San Antonio in 1993."
Some additions:
Assunta entered the convent of the Carmelites of the Holy Teresa in Tortosa which is in the southwest of Barcelona in 1924. She stayed there unil the end of 1936 when the nuns had to flee for Roma. Because there were too many nuns in the monasteries, Pope Pius XI. released those who had relatives from their vow.
On 16 (civil) / 17 (religious) September 1939, Assunta married Dr. Joseph Hopfinger in Ouchy in the south of Lausanne (CH). Hopfinger was born on 14 March 1905 as the son of Aron Hopfinger and Sara Rachel Roth.
Their daughters are Maria Teresa (born Barcelona, 12 May 1940) and Juliette Elisabeth (born New York, 30 Oktober 1942). Juliette changed her name "Hopfinger" into "Habsburg-Bourbon".
Assunta and Hopfinger got divorced in San Antonio on 25 July 1950. Assunta didn't marry again and died at Saint Teresa's Academy (San Antonio, Texas) on 24 January 1993. She was 90 years old.
After the divorce, Hopfinger married a woman called Helen N. He also changed his name into Joseph Hoppin, but I don't know when. He died at Charleston (South Carolina) on 23 August 1992 aged 87.
Prince_Christopher:
Quote from: MarieCharlotte on October 17, 2007, 01:59:13 PM
This wonderful book contains two rare pictures of Assunta as an adult.
Forgive me, but two books were mentioned on this thread.
MarieCharlotte, are you referring to The Unknown Hapsburgs or The Last Waltz?
Prince_Christopher:
I wonder what the family situation was like. Anton is the only one of ten siblings who made an illustrious marriage, and wasn't he working at a gas station at some point? Another brother became a factory worker in the US. And it seems I remember reading that Leopold had a grocery store. Were some of the other daughters nuns? Did Assunta keep in touch with her royal relations?
***
MarieCharlotte:
Oh sorry, Prince Christopher! I was refering to The Unknown Hapsburgs - I don't even own the other book! ;-) If you are interested in these two pictures, I can post them, of course.
Britt, I got the information from one of Alois Jahn's books. I think we've talked about them before.
Eurohistory:
Archduchess Assunta's granddaughter wrote a memoir of her grandmother for the EUROPEAN ROYAL HISTORY JOURNAL. It was published by us about 4 years ago...a very nice and touching reminiscence.
Arturo Beeche
Eurohistory:
Signed copies of The Unknown Habsburgs are still available for purchase from eurohistory.com
I don't know if the info below is on this thread, but it qualifies as at least a factoid.
ALEXANDER, LUCY (MRS.)
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...owRec.do?id=209
Sources: CBS Report with Walter Cronkite, 5/2/70
Mary's Comments: On 11/22/63 she lived in Ft. Worth. She is sister of Lyndon Johnson. She has since moved to Memphis, TN.
QUOTE
From the Washington Post--Aug. 24, 1916
FORMER MAUD COSTER NOT TO BE RECEIVED AT VIENNA COURT
Many inquiries have reached me with regard to the identity of Count Otto Salm-Hoogstraten, who some months ago married Miss Maud Coster, of New York, daughter of the late Charles Coster, of that city. Mrs. Charles Coster having been Miss Emily Pell. My correspondents point out that his name is not to be found either in that part of the Almanach de Gotha which is devoted to the princes and counts of the mediatized or formerly petty sovereign family of Salm in German nor yet In that green Gotha annual devoted to the enumeration of the counts of Germany and of Austria-Hungary.
Belongs to Belgian Nobility.
This is perfectly correct. The reason for this omission is that, in the first place, the former Maud Coster's husband is not, strictly speaking, a Count Salm. but merely a Count Hoogstraten, of the Belgian nobility, and to the fact that he is descended from a mesalliance and morganatic union on the part of Prince Constantino of Salm-Salm who married in 1810 as his third wife a bourgeois of the name of Catherine Bender. By her he had five sons, who were created counts of Hoogstraten by King Leopold I of Belgium on July 30, 1847. The fourth of these sons. Count Albert Hoogstraten, married the daughter of Charles Count Bohlen. Their son Alfred married Adolphine, daughter of Baron Victor Erlanger, and their son, Otto Count Hoogstraten. but not Count Salm, is the husband of the former Maud Coster.
Count Otto Hoogstraten is therefore handicapped In Austria-Hungary and Germany, from a social point of view, first of all by the morganatic ancestry of his father, by the fact that his mother was an Erlanger, and also by the circumstance that the princes and counts of Salm of the mediatized house of that name, who are very powerful, numerous and influential, resent the action of the Counts Hoogstraten In making use of the name of Salm in conjunction with their Belgian title.
Good Social Position Here.
Here In America the young countess, with her Pell ancestry on her mother's side and her father's honorable Dutch bourgeois origin on the other—the Costers came to this country from Haarlem, In the Netherlands, at the, end of the eighteenth century—has a social position that could not be bettered. On the continent of Europe and in the land of her husband's birth, and of which he still remains a citizen, she would, be a spirited American girl, find herself subjected to many slights and humiliations, among them that of being barred from the
court of Vienna and consequently from the great world of the Austrian capital, for being unable to satisfy the qualifications of eight exclusively noble descents on the father's and on the mother's side without any bourgeois strain, which are exacted as a sine qua non, not only of all Austrian and Hungarian women, hut also of all foreign-born women "who by marrying Austrians and Hungarians become subjects of Emperor Francis Joseph. In fact, Count Otto von Hoogstraten could not do better than to definitely establish his home In the United States and abandon the family property at Trautenberg, near Reichenau, in lower Austria,, to his brother, who left here at the beginning of the present war In order to fight for his country.
FORMER MAUD COSTER NOT TO BE RECEIVED AT VIENNA COURT
Many inquiries have reached me with regard to the identity of Count Otto Salm-Hoogstraten, who some months ago married Miss Maud Coster, of New York, daughter of the late Charles Coster, of that city. Mrs. Charles Coster having been Miss Emily Pell. My correspondents point out that his name is not to be found either in that part of the Almanach de Gotha which is devoted to the princes and counts of the mediatized or formerly petty sovereign family of Salm in German nor yet In that green Gotha annual devoted to the enumeration of the counts of Germany and of Austria-Hungary.
Belongs to Belgian Nobility.
This is perfectly correct. The reason for this omission is that, in the first place, the former Maud Coster's husband is not, strictly speaking, a Count Salm. but merely a Count Hoogstraten, of the Belgian nobility, and to the fact that he is descended from a mesalliance and morganatic union on the part of Prince Constantino of Salm-Salm who married in 1810 as his third wife a bourgeois of the name of Catherine Bender. By her he had five sons, who were created counts of Hoogstraten by King Leopold I of Belgium on July 30, 1847. The fourth of these sons. Count Albert Hoogstraten, married the daughter of Charles Count Bohlen. Their son Alfred married Adolphine, daughter of Baron Victor Erlanger, and their son, Otto Count Hoogstraten. but not Count Salm, is the husband of the former Maud Coster.
Count Otto Hoogstraten is therefore handicapped In Austria-Hungary and Germany, from a social point of view, first of all by the morganatic ancestry of his father, by the fact that his mother was an Erlanger, and also by the circumstance that the princes and counts of Salm of the mediatized house of that name, who are very powerful, numerous and influential, resent the action of the Counts Hoogstraten In making use of the name of Salm in conjunction with their Belgian title.
Good Social Position Here.
Here In America the young countess, with her Pell ancestry on her mother's side and her father's honorable Dutch bourgeois origin on the other—the Costers came to this country from Haarlem, In the Netherlands, at the, end of the eighteenth century—has a social position that could not be bettered. On the continent of Europe and in the land of her husband's birth, and of which he still remains a citizen, she would, be a spirited American girl, find herself subjected to many slights and humiliations, among them that of being barred from the
court of Vienna and consequently from the great world of the Austrian capital, for being unable to satisfy the qualifications of eight exclusively noble descents on the father's and on the mother's side without any bourgeois strain, which are exacted as a sine qua non, not only of all Austrian and Hungarian women, hut also of all foreign-born women "who by marrying Austrians and Hungarians become subjects of Emperor Francis Joseph. In fact, Count Otto von Hoogstraten could not do better than to definitely establish his home In the United States and abandon the family property at Trautenberg, near Reichenau, in lower Austria,, to his brother, who left here at the beginning of the present war In order to fight for his country.
One question that has never been answer to my satisfaction deals with the identity of Frank Bender aka Gerry Droller who was in the center of the JM WAVE operation in Miami and in Washington, D.C.
QUOTE
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKdroller.htm
Gerry Droller was born in Germany in about 1905. Not a great deal is known about his early life but during the Second World War he worked closely with the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and the Marquis in France. ...In 1954 Droller took part in the successful CIA operation to overthrow Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala. Others involved in this project included Frank Wisner, Richard Bissell, Tracy Barnes, E. Howard Hunt, David Atlee Phillips...In June 1960, Droller was sent to Miami in order to help overthrow the government of Fidel Castro in Cuba. Adopting the name, Frank Bender, he posed as a wealthy steel tycoon....
(5) Evan Thomas, The Very Best Men: The Early Days of the CIA (1995)
The two men chosen by Barnes to act as political officers, charged with setting up the Cuban government-in-exile, were unpromising. Gerry Droller, a German who chain-smoked cheap cigars in closed rooms and dined on liverwurst sandwiches, chose to be a steel tycoon as his cover in Miami; he treated the Cubans like peons and bragged, "I carry the counterrevolution in my checkbook." A former Swiss desk officer, he could not speak a word of Spanish. His sidekick was E. Howard Hunt. After the Guatemala operation Hunt had served as station chief in Uruguay. Told that he was being sent back to Washington, Hunt had enlisted the president of Uruguay to lobby the president of the United States to let him stay on; Eisenhower was embarrassed and Hunt was yanked back from Montevideo. As ever, Hunt had a fertile, if not always practical imagination. One of his schemes, never implemented, was to send a white-painted "flight of truth" on a tour of Latin America bringing a "Billy Graham-type operation the message of Castro's betrayal of the Cuban Revolution."
(6) David Wise and Thomas B. Ross, The Invisible Government (1964)
Bender said, "we've got lots to talk about. I am the man in charge of the Cuban case." Bender repeated the explanation that Artime had heard so often: the great company of wealthy people he represented had directed a large part of its money and effort toward the solution of the Cuban problem, and the defeat of communism everywhere. They had nothing to do with the American government, Bender told him, but they did have influence. Then he asked for Artime's thoughts on the future of Cuba....As he left the room, Bender shook hands and said, "Remember, Manolo, I am not a member of the United States government. I have nothing to do with the United States government. I am only working for a powerful company that wants to fight communism."
(8) John Simkin, Gerry Droller, International Education Forum (February, 2005)
Jake Esterline revealed in an interview with Jack Pfeiffer on 10th November, 1975, that Droller upset William Pawley and E. Howard Hunt during the planning for the Bay of Pigs operation. This mainly concerned political issues. Pawley thought it was important to get a right-wing government established in Cuba after the invasion. Droller, on the other hand, wanted people like Manuel Ray to be involved in the new administration (as did JFK). Hunt agreed with Pawley but was Droller’s subordinate and could do nothing about it.
It could be argued that Droller reflected the CIA thinking that encouraged them to initially support Fidel Castro in Cuba. Wisner, Barnes and Bissell held similar views. They believed it was in American interests to establish liberal, reforming governments in Latin America, rather than military dictatorships that were unpopular with the people. They took the view that supporting tyrannical and corrupt dictators was not in the long-term best interests of America.
However, it is possible that there is another explanation for Droller’s behaviour. Is it possible he was a long-time Soviet mole. I say this because of his background. If he fled from Nazi Germany in the 1930s and ended up fighting up with the Marquis in France, he almost certainly held left-wing views. It is possible that his views changed after the war. Obviously, he must have given that impression to the CIA otherwise they would not have recruited him.
Luis Aguilar Leon’s report suggests the possibility that Droller was creating disunity in the anti-Castro exile community on purpose. If Droller was a Soviet mole he would have been providing the Soviets (and presumably Castro) with some very important information.
Droller appears to disappear after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Was he sacked for incompetence? Did he flee to the Soviet Union? Or was he dealt with in some other way?
Gerry Droller was born in Germany in about 1905. Not a great deal is known about his early life but during the Second World War he worked closely with the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and the Marquis in France. ...In 1954 Droller took part in the successful CIA operation to overthrow Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala. Others involved in this project included Frank Wisner, Richard Bissell, Tracy Barnes, E. Howard Hunt, David Atlee Phillips...In June 1960, Droller was sent to Miami in order to help overthrow the government of Fidel Castro in Cuba. Adopting the name, Frank Bender, he posed as a wealthy steel tycoon....
(5) Evan Thomas, The Very Best Men: The Early Days of the CIA (1995)
The two men chosen by Barnes to act as political officers, charged with setting up the Cuban government-in-exile, were unpromising. Gerry Droller, a German who chain-smoked cheap cigars in closed rooms and dined on liverwurst sandwiches, chose to be a steel tycoon as his cover in Miami; he treated the Cubans like peons and bragged, "I carry the counterrevolution in my checkbook." A former Swiss desk officer, he could not speak a word of Spanish. His sidekick was E. Howard Hunt. After the Guatemala operation Hunt had served as station chief in Uruguay. Told that he was being sent back to Washington, Hunt had enlisted the president of Uruguay to lobby the president of the United States to let him stay on; Eisenhower was embarrassed and Hunt was yanked back from Montevideo. As ever, Hunt had a fertile, if not always practical imagination. One of his schemes, never implemented, was to send a white-painted "flight of truth" on a tour of Latin America bringing a "Billy Graham-type operation the message of Castro's betrayal of the Cuban Revolution."
(6) David Wise and Thomas B. Ross, The Invisible Government (1964)
Bender said, "we've got lots to talk about. I am the man in charge of the Cuban case." Bender repeated the explanation that Artime had heard so often: the great company of wealthy people he represented had directed a large part of its money and effort toward the solution of the Cuban problem, and the defeat of communism everywhere. They had nothing to do with the American government, Bender told him, but they did have influence. Then he asked for Artime's thoughts on the future of Cuba....As he left the room, Bender shook hands and said, "Remember, Manolo, I am not a member of the United States government. I have nothing to do with the United States government. I am only working for a powerful company that wants to fight communism."
(8) John Simkin, Gerry Droller, International Education Forum (February, 2005)
Jake Esterline revealed in an interview with Jack Pfeiffer on 10th November, 1975, that Droller upset William Pawley and E. Howard Hunt during the planning for the Bay of Pigs operation. This mainly concerned political issues. Pawley thought it was important to get a right-wing government established in Cuba after the invasion. Droller, on the other hand, wanted people like Manuel Ray to be involved in the new administration (as did JFK). Hunt agreed with Pawley but was Droller’s subordinate and could do nothing about it.
It could be argued that Droller reflected the CIA thinking that encouraged them to initially support Fidel Castro in Cuba. Wisner, Barnes and Bissell held similar views. They believed it was in American interests to establish liberal, reforming governments in Latin America, rather than military dictatorships that were unpopular with the people. They took the view that supporting tyrannical and corrupt dictators was not in the long-term best interests of America.
However, it is possible that there is another explanation for Droller’s behaviour. Is it possible he was a long-time Soviet mole. I say this because of his background. If he fled from Nazi Germany in the 1930s and ended up fighting up with the Marquis in France, he almost certainly held left-wing views. It is possible that his views changed after the war. Obviously, he must have given that impression to the CIA otherwise they would not have recruited him.
Luis Aguilar Leon’s report suggests the possibility that Droller was creating disunity in the anti-Castro exile community on purpose. If Droller was a Soviet mole he would have been providing the Soviets (and presumably Castro) with some very important information.
Droller appears to disappear after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Was he sacked for incompetence? Did he flee to the Soviet Union? Or was he dealt with in some other way?
My theory is that U.S. intelligence operations were set up by elected officials with the intent of protecting the American people's interests. However, at the time when FDR set up the OSS and Truman agreed to establish the CIA, there were numerous former members of nobility running around who were angry about their estates having been dispossessed by communists and their titles having been made meaningless. Could the alias "Frank Bender" have been created by one of Droller's wealthy patrons who had managed to inject him into intelligence circles in order to overthrow the philosophy which had deprived them of wealth? Is there a thread running from the persons mentioned in the above 1916 article that ties together this anti-communists with LBJ's siblings--a sister (who married Col. Boris Pash's subordinate, Col. Willard White) and a brother (who for many years took over Lyndon's former role on the staff of Cong. Dick Kleberg of Texas before joining the OSS)--and LBJ's adopted nephew who married a daughter of Archduchess Assunta of Austria (1902-1993), a granddaughter of Grand Duke Leopold II (1797-1870), Tuscany’s last proper Habsburg ruler who was married twice, first in 1817 to Princess Maria Anna of Saxony, who bore him three daughters and who died in 1832. The following year he married Princess Maria Antonia of Bourbon-Sicily, by whom he had 10 children and innumerable grand children and great-grandchildren. Assunta's parents were Leopold Salvator (1863-1931) and Infanta Blanca of Spain (1868-1949).
Some info from David McIntosh "The Unkhown Habsburgs" :
"Assunta entered a convent in Barcelona with the intention of becoming a nun, but was forced to flee when the convent was destroyed during the Spanish Civil War in 1936...At the age of 37 Assunta married a Doctor, Joseph Hopfinger, who originated from Galicia. He was Jewish and as remaining in Europe at that time was unsafe, they emigrated to the USA. The couple, who had 2 daughters, Maria Teresa and Elisabeth, divorced in 1950. Assunta spent the rest of her life in Texas and died in San Antonio in 1993."
Some additions:
Assunta entered the covent of the Carmelites of the Holy Teresa in Tortosa which is in the southwest of Barcelona in 1924. She stayed there unil the end of 1936 when the nuns had to flee for Roma. Because there were to many nuns in the monasteries, Pope Pius XI. released those who had relatives from their vow.
On 16 (civil) / 17 (religious) September 1939, Assunta married Dr. Joseph Hopfinger in Ouchy in the south of Lausanne (CH). Hopfinger was born on 14 March 1905 as the son of Aron Hopfinger and Sara Rachel Roth. Their daughters are Maria Teresa (born Barcelona, 12 May 1940) and Juliette Elisabeth (born New York, 30 Oktober 1942). Juliette changed her name "Hopfinger" into "Habsburg-Bourbon". Assunta and Hopfinger got divorced in San Antonio on 25 July 1950. Assunta didn't marry again and died at Saint Teresa's Academy (San Antonio, Texas) on 24 January 1993. She was 90 years old. After the divorce, Hopfinger married a woman called Helen N. He also changed his name into Joseph Hoppin, but I don't know when. He died at Charleston (South Carolina) on 23 August 1992 aged 87.
http://www.teresians.org/locations.htm#IN%20TEXAS:
Teresian Sisters - St. Teresa Convent
138 Fair Ave. San Antonio, TX 78223-1014
St. Teresa's Academy's address was 4018 S. Presa street, which is at the corner of Presa and Fair Ave.
What's interesting is the rumor I've heard that Hattie Valdez left her fortune upon her death to her only daughter, who was a nun. If Josefa did work for Hattie, and if Hattie's daughter was a nun, there may have been a connection to Josefa's adopted son's marriage to the daughter of a nun. It's all very strange.
QUOTE (Linda Minor @ Oct 7 2009, 05:06 PM)
QUOTE
From the Washington Post--Aug. 24, 1916
FORMER MAUD COSTER NOT TO BE RECEIVED AT VIENNA COURT
Many inquiries have reached me with regard to the identity of Count Otto Salm-Hoogstraten, who some months ago married Miss Maud Coster, of New York, daughter of the late Charles Coster, of that city. Mrs. Charles Coster having been Miss Emily Pell. My correspondents point out that his name is not to be found either in that part of the Almanach de Gotha which is devoted to the princes and counts of the mediatized or formerly petty sovereign family of Salm in German nor yet In that green Gotha annual devoted to the enumeration of the counts of Germany and of Austria-Hungary.
Belongs to Belgian Nobility.
This is perfectly correct. The reason for this omission is that, in the first place, the former Maud Coster's husband is not, strictly speaking, a Count Salm. but merely a Count Hoogstraten, of the Belgian nobility, and to the fact that he is descended from a mesalliance and morganatic union on the part of Prince Constantino of Salm-Salm who married in 1810 as his third wife a bourgeois of the name of Catherine Bender. By her he had five sons, who were created counts of Hoogstraten by King Leopold I of Belgium on July 30, 1847. The fourth of these sons. Count Albert Hoogstraten, married the daughter of Charles Count Bohlen. Their son Alfred married Adolphine, daughter of Baron Victor Erlanger, and their son, Otto Count Hoogstraten. but not Count Salm, is the husband of the former Maud Coster.
Count Otto Hoogstraten is therefore handicapped In Austria-Hungary and Germany, from a social point of view, first of all by the morganatic ancestry of his father, by the fact that his mother was an Erlanger, and also by the circumstance that the princes and counts of Salm of the mediatized house of that name, who are very powerful, numerous and influential, resent the action of the Counts Hoogstraten In making use of the name of Salm in conjunction with their Belgian title.
Good Social Position Here.
Here In America the young countess, with her Pell ancestry on her mother's side and her father's honorable Dutch bourgeois origin on the other—the Costers came to this country from Haarlem, In the Netherlands, at the, end of the eighteenth century—has a social position that could not be bettered. On the continent of Europe and in the land of her husband's birth, and of which he still remains a citizen, she would, be a spirited American girl, find herself subjected to many slights and humiliations, among them that of being barred from the
court of Vienna and consequently from the great world of the Austrian capital, for being unable to satisfy the qualifications of eight exclusively noble descents on the father's and on the mother's side without any bourgeois strain, which are exacted as a sine qua non, not only of all Austrian and Hungarian women, hut also of all foreign-born women "who by marrying Austrians and Hungarians become subjects of Emperor Francis Joseph. In fact, Count Otto von Hoogstraten could not do better than to definitely establish his home In the United States and abandon the family property at Trautenberg, near Reichenau, in lower Austria,, to his brother, who left here at the beginning of the present war In order to fight for his country.
FORMER MAUD COSTER NOT TO BE RECEIVED AT VIENNA COURT
Many inquiries have reached me with regard to the identity of Count Otto Salm-Hoogstraten, who some months ago married Miss Maud Coster, of New York, daughter of the late Charles Coster, of that city. Mrs. Charles Coster having been Miss Emily Pell. My correspondents point out that his name is not to be found either in that part of the Almanach de Gotha which is devoted to the princes and counts of the mediatized or formerly petty sovereign family of Salm in German nor yet In that green Gotha annual devoted to the enumeration of the counts of Germany and of Austria-Hungary.
Belongs to Belgian Nobility.
This is perfectly correct. The reason for this omission is that, in the first place, the former Maud Coster's husband is not, strictly speaking, a Count Salm. but merely a Count Hoogstraten, of the Belgian nobility, and to the fact that he is descended from a mesalliance and morganatic union on the part of Prince Constantino of Salm-Salm who married in 1810 as his third wife a bourgeois of the name of Catherine Bender. By her he had five sons, who were created counts of Hoogstraten by King Leopold I of Belgium on July 30, 1847. The fourth of these sons. Count Albert Hoogstraten, married the daughter of Charles Count Bohlen. Their son Alfred married Adolphine, daughter of Baron Victor Erlanger, and their son, Otto Count Hoogstraten. but not Count Salm, is the husband of the former Maud Coster.
Count Otto Hoogstraten is therefore handicapped In Austria-Hungary and Germany, from a social point of view, first of all by the morganatic ancestry of his father, by the fact that his mother was an Erlanger, and also by the circumstance that the princes and counts of Salm of the mediatized house of that name, who are very powerful, numerous and influential, resent the action of the Counts Hoogstraten In making use of the name of Salm in conjunction with their Belgian title.
Good Social Position Here.
Here In America the young countess, with her Pell ancestry on her mother's side and her father's honorable Dutch bourgeois origin on the other—the Costers came to this country from Haarlem, In the Netherlands, at the, end of the eighteenth century—has a social position that could not be bettered. On the continent of Europe and in the land of her husband's birth, and of which he still remains a citizen, she would, be a spirited American girl, find herself subjected to many slights and humiliations, among them that of being barred from the
court of Vienna and consequently from the great world of the Austrian capital, for being unable to satisfy the qualifications of eight exclusively noble descents on the father's and on the mother's side without any bourgeois strain, which are exacted as a sine qua non, not only of all Austrian and Hungarian women, hut also of all foreign-born women "who by marrying Austrians and Hungarians become subjects of Emperor Francis Joseph. In fact, Count Otto von Hoogstraten could not do better than to definitely establish his home In the United States and abandon the family property at Trautenberg, near Reichenau, in lower Austria,, to his brother, who left here at the beginning of the present war In order to fight for his country.
One question that has never been answer to my satisfaction deals with the identity of Frank Bender aka Gerry Droller who was in the center of the JM WAVE operation in Miami and in Washington, D.C.
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http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKdroller.htm
Gerry Droller was born in Germany in about 1905. Not a great deal is known about his early life but during the Second World War he worked closely with the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and the Marquis in France. ...In 1954 Droller took part in the successful CIA operation to overthrow Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala. Others involved in this project included Frank Wisner, Richard Bissell, Tracy Barnes, E. Howard Hunt, David Atlee Phillips...In June 1960, Droller was sent to Miami in order to help overthrow the government of Fidel Castro in Cuba. Adopting the name, Frank Bender, he posed as a wealthy steel tycoon....
(5) Evan Thomas, The Very Best Men: The Early Days of the CIA (1995)
The two men chosen by Barnes to act as political officers, charged with setting up the Cuban government-in-exile, were unpromising. Gerry Droller, a German who chain-smoked cheap cigars in closed rooms and dined on liverwurst sandwiches, chose to be a steel tycoon as his cover in Miami; he treated the Cubans like peons and bragged, "I carry the counterrevolution in my checkbook." A former Swiss desk officer, he could not speak a word of Spanish. His sidekick was E. Howard Hunt. After the Guatemala operation Hunt had served as station chief in Uruguay. Told that he was being sent back to Washington, Hunt had enlisted the president of Uruguay to lobby the president of the United States to let him stay on; Eisenhower was embarrassed and Hunt was yanked back from Montevideo. As ever, Hunt had a fertile, if not always practical imagination. One of his schemes, never implemented, was to send a white-painted "flight of truth" on a tour of Latin America bringing a "Billy Graham-type operation the message of Castro's betrayal of the Cuban Revolution."
(6) David Wise and Thomas B. Ross, The Invisible Government (1964)
Bender said, "we've got lots to talk about. I am the man in charge of the Cuban case." Bender repeated the explanation that Artime had heard so often: the great company of wealthy people he represented had directed a large part of its money and effort toward the solution of the Cuban problem, and the defeat of communism everywhere. They had nothing to do with the American government, Bender told him, but they did have influence. Then he asked for Artime's thoughts on the future of Cuba....As he left the room, Bender shook hands and said, "Remember, Manolo, I am not a member of the United States government. I have nothing to do with the United States government. I am only working for a powerful company that wants to fight communism."
(8) John Simkin, Gerry Droller, International Education Forum (February, 2005)
Jake Esterline revealed in an interview with Jack Pfeiffer on 10th November, 1975, that Droller upset William Pawley and E. Howard Hunt during the planning for the Bay of Pigs operation. This mainly concerned political issues. Pawley thought it was important to get a right-wing government established in Cuba after the invasion. Droller, on the other hand, wanted people like Manuel Ray to be involved in the new administration (as did JFK). Hunt agreed with Pawley but was Droller’s subordinate and could do nothing about it.
It could be argued that Droller reflected the CIA thinking that encouraged them to initially support Fidel Castro in Cuba. Wisner, Barnes and Bissell held similar views. They believed it was in American interests to establish liberal, reforming governments in Latin America, rather than military dictatorships that were unpopular with the people. They took the view that supporting tyrannical and corrupt dictators was not in the long-term best interests of America.
However, it is possible that there is another explanation for Droller’s behaviour. Is it possible he was a long-time Soviet mole. I say this because of his background. If he fled from Nazi Germany in the 1930s and ended up fighting up with the Marquis in France, he almost certainly held left-wing views. It is possible that his views changed after the war. Obviously, he must have given that impression to the CIA otherwise they would not have recruited him.
Luis Aguilar Leon’s report suggests the possibility that Droller was creating disunity in the anti-Castro exile community on purpose. If Droller was a Soviet mole he would have been providing the Soviets (and presumably Castro) with some very important information.
Droller appears to disappear after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Was he sacked for incompetence? Did he flee to the Soviet Union? Or was he dealt with in some other way?
Gerry Droller was born in Germany in about 1905. Not a great deal is known about his early life but during the Second World War he worked closely with the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and the Marquis in France. ...In 1954 Droller took part in the successful CIA operation to overthrow Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala. Others involved in this project included Frank Wisner, Richard Bissell, Tracy Barnes, E. Howard Hunt, David Atlee Phillips...In June 1960, Droller was sent to Miami in order to help overthrow the government of Fidel Castro in Cuba. Adopting the name, Frank Bender, he posed as a wealthy steel tycoon....
(5) Evan Thomas, The Very Best Men: The Early Days of the CIA (1995)
The two men chosen by Barnes to act as political officers, charged with setting up the Cuban government-in-exile, were unpromising. Gerry Droller, a German who chain-smoked cheap cigars in closed rooms and dined on liverwurst sandwiches, chose to be a steel tycoon as his cover in Miami; he treated the Cubans like peons and bragged, "I carry the counterrevolution in my checkbook." A former Swiss desk officer, he could not speak a word of Spanish. His sidekick was E. Howard Hunt. After the Guatemala operation Hunt had served as station chief in Uruguay. Told that he was being sent back to Washington, Hunt had enlisted the president of Uruguay to lobby the president of the United States to let him stay on; Eisenhower was embarrassed and Hunt was yanked back from Montevideo. As ever, Hunt had a fertile, if not always practical imagination. One of his schemes, never implemented, was to send a white-painted "flight of truth" on a tour of Latin America bringing a "Billy Graham-type operation the message of Castro's betrayal of the Cuban Revolution."
(6) David Wise and Thomas B. Ross, The Invisible Government (1964)
Bender said, "we've got lots to talk about. I am the man in charge of the Cuban case." Bender repeated the explanation that Artime had heard so often: the great company of wealthy people he represented had directed a large part of its money and effort toward the solution of the Cuban problem, and the defeat of communism everywhere. They had nothing to do with the American government, Bender told him, but they did have influence. Then he asked for Artime's thoughts on the future of Cuba....As he left the room, Bender shook hands and said, "Remember, Manolo, I am not a member of the United States government. I have nothing to do with the United States government. I am only working for a powerful company that wants to fight communism."
(8) John Simkin, Gerry Droller, International Education Forum (February, 2005)
Jake Esterline revealed in an interview with Jack Pfeiffer on 10th November, 1975, that Droller upset William Pawley and E. Howard Hunt during the planning for the Bay of Pigs operation. This mainly concerned political issues. Pawley thought it was important to get a right-wing government established in Cuba after the invasion. Droller, on the other hand, wanted people like Manuel Ray to be involved in the new administration (as did JFK). Hunt agreed with Pawley but was Droller’s subordinate and could do nothing about it.
It could be argued that Droller reflected the CIA thinking that encouraged them to initially support Fidel Castro in Cuba. Wisner, Barnes and Bissell held similar views. They believed it was in American interests to establish liberal, reforming governments in Latin America, rather than military dictatorships that were unpopular with the people. They took the view that supporting tyrannical and corrupt dictators was not in the long-term best interests of America.
However, it is possible that there is another explanation for Droller’s behaviour. Is it possible he was a long-time Soviet mole. I say this because of his background. If he fled from Nazi Germany in the 1930s and ended up fighting up with the Marquis in France, he almost certainly held left-wing views. It is possible that his views changed after the war. Obviously, he must have given that impression to the CIA otherwise they would not have recruited him.
Luis Aguilar Leon’s report suggests the possibility that Droller was creating disunity in the anti-Castro exile community on purpose. If Droller was a Soviet mole he would have been providing the Soviets (and presumably Castro) with some very important information.
Droller appears to disappear after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Was he sacked for incompetence? Did he flee to the Soviet Union? Or was he dealt with in some other way?
My theory is that U.S. intelligence operations were set up by elected officials with the intent of protecting the American people's interests. However, at the time when FDR set up the OSS and Truman agreed to establish the CIA, there were numerous former members of nobility running around who were angry about their estates having been dispossessed by communists and their titles having been made meaningless. Could the alias "Frank Bender" have been created by one of Droller's wealthy patrons who had managed to inject him into intelligence circles in order to overthrow the philosophy which had deprived them of wealth? Is there a thread running from the persons mentioned in the above 1916 article that ties together this anti-communists with LBJ's siblings--a sister (who married Col. Boris Pash's subordinate, Col. Willard White) and a brother (who for many years took over Lyndon's former role on the staff of Cong. Dick Kleberg of Texas before joining the OSS)--and LBJ's adopted nephew who married a daughter of Archduchess Assunta of Austria (1902-1993), a granddaughter of Grand Duke Leopold II (1797-1870), Tuscany’s last proper Habsburg ruler who was married twice, first in 1817 to Princess Maria Anna of Saxony, who bore him three daughters and who died in 1832. The following year he married Princess Maria Antonia of Bourbon-Sicily, by whom he had 10 children and innumerable grand children and great-grandchildren. Assunta's parents were Leopold Salvator (1863-1931) and Infanta Blanca of Spain (1868-1949).
Some info from David McIntosh "The Unkhown Habsburgs" :
"Assunta entered a convent in Barcelona with the intention of becoming a nun, but was forced to flee when the convent was destroyed during the Spanish Civil War in 1936...At the age of 37 Assunta married a Doctor, Joseph Hopfinger, who originated from Galicia. He was Jewish and as remaining in Europe at that time was unsafe, they emigrated to the USA. The couple, who had 2 daughters, Maria Teresa and Elisabeth, divorced in 1950. Assunta spent the rest of her life in Texas and died in San Antonio in 1993."
Some additions:
Assunta entered the covent of the Carmelites of the Holy Teresa in Tortosa which is in the southwest of Barcelona in 1924. She stayed there unil the end of 1936 when the nuns had to flee for Roma. Because there were to many nuns in the monasteries, Pope Pius XI. released those who had relatives from their vow.
On 16 (civil) / 17 (religious) September 1939, Assunta married Dr. Joseph Hopfinger in Ouchy in the south of Lausanne (CH). Hopfinger was born on 14 March 1905 as the son of Aron Hopfinger and Sara Rachel Roth. Their daughters are Maria Teresa (born Barcelona, 12 May 1940) and Juliette Elisabeth (born New York, 30 Oktober 1942). Juliette changed her name "Hopfinger" into "Habsburg-Bourbon". Assunta and Hopfinger got divorced in San Antonio on 25 July 1950. Assunta didn't marry again and died at Saint Teresa's Academy (San Antonio, Texas) on 24 January 1993. She was 90 years old. After the divorce, Hopfinger married a woman called Helen N. He also changed his name into Joseph Hoppin, but I don't know when. He died at Charleston (South Carolina) on 23 August 1992 aged 87.
http://www.teresians.org/locations.htm#IN%20TEXAS:
Teresian Sisters - St. Teresa Convent
138 Fair Ave. San Antonio, TX 78223-1014
St. Teresa's Academy's address was 4018 S. Presa street, which is at the corner of Presa and Fair Ave.
What's interesting is the rumor I've heard that Hattie Valdez left her fortune upon her death to her only daughter, who was a nun. If Josefa did work for Hattie, and if Hattie's daughter was a nun, there may have been a connection to Josefa's adopted son's marriage to the daughter of a nun. It's all very strange.
There are two sources of information that are fairly obscure regarding the subject matter, both fairly important.
One is about ranches and is incredibly informative.
The book is entitled
Dining With The Cattle Barons Yesterday and Today - Sarah Morgan Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 81-50855
Published by Texian Press Waco, Texas.
The other is The Elite Serial Killers of JFK, RFK and MLK by Robert Gaylon Ross, Sr.
The former contains information on the following ranches.
Lem Allen
J.P. Morris
Brummett's 3B Ranch
Bob Green
Halsell's Farias Ranch [area near Eagle Pass....]
JAL Ranch - carried the brand of Jess A. Lynch [weird anomaly Jess Willard Lynch?]
The King Ranch
Lambshead
LBJ Ranch
Matador [Henry and Lizzie Campbell]
Pitchfork
Pritchard see XIT Ranch
Reynold's X see Reynolds Cattle Co.
Santa Rosa
Swenson
Thistle Hill
Certain obscurities that intertwine the JFK assassination regard cattle breeding, when Thomas Eli Davis was arrested in Morocco, his activities or cover were alleged to have been dealing with cattle breeding besides the fact that he had documentation or papers mentioning Lee Oswald and Jack Ruby, see my posts on the QJWIN thread for more information.
Also, there was a The Winfield Scott Ranch which covered over 12000 acres in Tarrant, County. I am not sure if this is mentioned in Sarah's book.
Ross Gaylon's book contains details regarding Josefa Johnson.
Disclaimer: Historians and or concerned persons, should not draw the inference that these persons were involved in political skullduggery of the 1960's....
Oh, and regarding Gerry Droller, it seems he found time to make a trip to the Dallas area as described in the following document......
GERRY DROLLER MEETING W/MIRO CARDONA AT MARRIOT HOTEL, ARLINGTON
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=1
I'm sure Linda and Tom might agree that, in a backasswards way this get together seems evocative of the "alleged" meeting between "Maurice Bishop," and Antonio Viciana, although this meeting is in May 1961, nothing sinister, but noteworthy......
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