I just viewed most of the assassination films. I noticed something I didn't before and I never heard anyone mention it. And maybe it's the fault of the sunlight, but...
Many people believe there was another film being recorded besides the Zapruder film. Abraham Zapruder was a decoy. What he and Marilyn Sitzman were standing on was a very thin, flimsy section of wall; almost impossible to stand on it, 4 feet from the ground. I don't think you could stand on it with both feet. It would have to be one foot in front of the other. To add to this absurdity, Zapruder nursed a fear of heights. (The last told to me by a certain researcher.) Some Kennedy researchers believe they have seen the "real" film, made for the govt or intel or oil barons' pleasure, more or less. But where is the camera? Supposedly it is filmed at an angle not far from Zapruder. There's a theory that a tripod and cameraman were in the Pergola behind and to Zapruder's left. I have never seen proof of this. What I have seen ---
I went on youtube.com and watched the assassination films again. Except for the Z-film, I hadn't seen them for a long time. I noticed something and it may not amount to anything. In the Towner film, the camera on the South Knoll, opposite of where Zapruder was shows what looks to me to be night lights over -- I don't recall what it's called -- the arcade roof. This is the structure between the Grassy Knoll and the TBSD. These lights showed up on Towner, but on the Bell film, the camera swung over the arcade roof twice. The first time, they just weren't there. The next time, I swear, they were whited out. -- Now I could be wrong.
My thought is maybe one of them held a camera. Otherwise, why are they in Towner and not in Bell? Both films were taken feet away from each other, I could tell. And close in time. I'm sure someone knows more about this.
Another odd thing I noticed in the Hughes film. Frames I've seen show a whiting out via a fake "ledge" that has no reason to be there at the shooter's window. I've noticed another "ledge" on the TSBD in a different film, not any I viewed today. But in youtube's copy of Hughes, this white out doesn't exist.
But the main thing is the whereabouts of the camera. Has anyone seen this? Could it be those "lights"?
Kathy
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QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 18 2007, 08:00 PM) 
I just viewed most of the assassination films. I noticed something I didn't before and I never heard anyone mention it. And maybe it's the fault of the sunlight, but...
Many people believe there was another film being recorded besides the Zapruder film. Abraham Zapruder was a decoy. What he and Marilyn Sitzman were standing on was a very thin, flimsy section of wall; almost impossible to stand on it, 4 feet from the ground. I don't think you could stand on it with both feet. It would have to be one foot in front of the other. To add to this absurdity, Zapruder nursed a fear of heights. (The last told to me by a certain researcher.) Some Kennedy researchers believe they have seen the "real" film, made for the govt or intel or oil barons' pleasure, more or less. But where is the camera? Supposedly it is filmed at an angle not far from Zapruder. There's a theory that a tripod and cameraman were in the Pergola behind and to Zapruder's left. I have never seen proof of this. What I have seen ---
I went on youtube.com and watched the assassination films again. Except for the Z-film, I hadn't seen them for a long time. I noticed something and it may not amount to anything. In the Towner film, the camera on the South Knoll, opposite of where Zapruder was shows what looks to me to be night lights over -- I don't recall what it's called -- the arcade roof. This is the structure between the Grassy Knoll and the TBSD. These lights showed up on Towner, but on the Bell film, the camera swung over the arcade roof twice. The first time, they just weren't there. The next time, I swear, they were whited out. -- Now I could be wrong.
My thought is maybe one of them held a camera. Otherwise, why are they in Towner and not in Bell? Both films were taken feet away from each other, I could tell. And close in time. I'm sure someone knows more about this.
Another odd thing I noticed in the Hughes film. Frames I've seen show a whiting out via a fake "ledge" that has no reason to be there at the shooter's window. I've noticed another "ledge" on the TSBD in a different film, not any I viewed today. But in youtube's copy of Hughes, this white out doesn't exist.
But the main thing is the whereabouts of the camera. Has anyone seen this? Could it be those "lights"?
Kathy
Many people believe there was another film being recorded besides the Zapruder film. Abraham Zapruder was a decoy. What he and Marilyn Sitzman were standing on was a very thin, flimsy section of wall; almost impossible to stand on it, 4 feet from the ground. I don't think you could stand on it with both feet. It would have to be one foot in front of the other. To add to this absurdity, Zapruder nursed a fear of heights. (The last told to me by a certain researcher.) Some Kennedy researchers believe they have seen the "real" film, made for the govt or intel or oil barons' pleasure, more or less. But where is the camera? Supposedly it is filmed at an angle not far from Zapruder. There's a theory that a tripod and cameraman were in the Pergola behind and to Zapruder's left. I have never seen proof of this. What I have seen ---
I went on youtube.com and watched the assassination films again. Except for the Z-film, I hadn't seen them for a long time. I noticed something and it may not amount to anything. In the Towner film, the camera on the South Knoll, opposite of where Zapruder was shows what looks to me to be night lights over -- I don't recall what it's called -- the arcade roof. This is the structure between the Grassy Knoll and the TBSD. These lights showed up on Towner, but on the Bell film, the camera swung over the arcade roof twice. The first time, they just weren't there. The next time, I swear, they were whited out. -- Now I could be wrong.
My thought is maybe one of them held a camera. Otherwise, why are they in Towner and not in Bell? Both films were taken feet away from each other, I could tell. And close in time. I'm sure someone knows more about this.
Another odd thing I noticed in the Hughes film. Frames I've seen show a whiting out via a fake "ledge" that has no reason to be there at the shooter's window. I've noticed another "ledge" on the TSBD in a different film, not any I viewed today. But in youtube's copy of Hughes, this white out doesn't exist.
But the main thing is the whereabouts of the camera. Has anyone seen this? Could it be those "lights"?
Kathy
Hi Kathleen,
Can you provide any photos of the area you're describing?
Here are a couple that might help.
Let us know if my interpretation is wrong.
chris
QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 18 2007, 02:00 PM)
I just viewed most of the assassination films. I noticed something I didn't before and I never heard anyone mention it. And maybe it's the fault of the sunlight, but...
Many people believe there was another film being recorded besides the Zapruder film. Abraham Zapruder was a decoy. What he and Marilyn Sitzman were standing on was a very thin, flimsy section of wall; almost impossible to stand on it, 4 feet from the ground. I don't think you could stand on it with both feet. It would have to be one foot in front of the other. To add to this absurdity, Zapruder nursed a fear of heights. (The last told to me by a certain researcher.) Some Kennedy researchers believe they have seen the "real" film, made for the govt or intel or oil barons' pleasure, more or less. But where is the camera? Supposedly it is filmed at an angle not far from Zapruder. There's a theory that a tripod and cameraman were in the Pergola behind and to Zapruder's left. I have never seen proof of this. What I have seen ---
I went on youtube.com and watched the assassination films again. Except for the Z-film, I hadn't seen them for a long time. I noticed something and it may not amount to anything. In the Towner film, the camera on the South Knoll, opposite of where Zapruder was shows what looks to me to be night lights over -- I don't recall what it's called -- the arcade roof. This is the structure between the Grassy Knoll and the TBSD. These lights showed up on Towner, but on the Bell film, the camera swung over the arcade roof twice. The first time, they just weren't there. The next time, I swear, they were whited out. -- Now I could be wrong.
My thought is maybe one of them held a camera. Otherwise, why are they in Towner and not in Bell? Both films were taken feet away from each other, I could tell. And close in time. I'm sure someone knows more about this.
Another odd thing I noticed in the Hughes film. Frames I've seen show a whiting out via a fake "ledge" that has no reason to be there at the shooter's window. I've noticed another "ledge" on the TSBD in a different film, not any I viewed today. But in youtube's copy of Hughes, this white out doesn't exist.
But the main thing is the whereabouts of the camera. Has anyone seen this? Could it be those "lights"?
Kathy
Many people believe there was another film being recorded besides the Zapruder film. Abraham Zapruder was a decoy. What he and Marilyn Sitzman were standing on was a very thin, flimsy section of wall; almost impossible to stand on it, 4 feet from the ground. I don't think you could stand on it with both feet. It would have to be one foot in front of the other. To add to this absurdity, Zapruder nursed a fear of heights. (The last told to me by a certain researcher.) Some Kennedy researchers believe they have seen the "real" film, made for the govt or intel or oil barons' pleasure, more or less. But where is the camera? Supposedly it is filmed at an angle not far from Zapruder. There's a theory that a tripod and cameraman were in the Pergola behind and to Zapruder's left. I have never seen proof of this. What I have seen ---
I went on youtube.com and watched the assassination films again. Except for the Z-film, I hadn't seen them for a long time. I noticed something and it may not amount to anything. In the Towner film, the camera on the South Knoll, opposite of where Zapruder was shows what looks to me to be night lights over -- I don't recall what it's called -- the arcade roof. This is the structure between the Grassy Knoll and the TBSD. These lights showed up on Towner, but on the Bell film, the camera swung over the arcade roof twice. The first time, they just weren't there. The next time, I swear, they were whited out. -- Now I could be wrong.
My thought is maybe one of them held a camera. Otherwise, why are they in Towner and not in Bell? Both films were taken feet away from each other, I could tell. And close in time. I'm sure someone knows more about this.
Another odd thing I noticed in the Hughes film. Frames I've seen show a whiting out via a fake "ledge" that has no reason to be there at the shooter's window. I've noticed another "ledge" on the TSBD in a different film, not any I viewed today. But in youtube's copy of Hughes, this white out doesn't exist.
But the main thing is the whereabouts of the camera. Has anyone seen this? Could it be those "lights"?
Kathy
With all due respect, Kathy, I've stood on that perch and there's nothing "thin or flimsy" about it. There are a couple of pictures of it at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neal.mccarthy/Dealey.htm if you want to see it.
As for the fake ledge, it's just something extending from the light pole. Looks like it might be a bracket, or a rolled-up banner or something similar.
JWK
QUOTE (J. William King @ Apr 19 2007, 06:41 AM)
...
With all due respect, Kathy, I've stood on that perch and there's nothing "thin or flimsy" about it. There are a couple of pictures of it at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neal.mccarthy/Dealey.htm if you want to see it.
As for the fake ledge, it's just something extending from the light pole. Looks like it might be a bracket, or a rolled-up banner or something similar.
JWK
With all due respect, Kathy, I've stood on that perch and there's nothing "thin or flimsy" about it. There are a couple of pictures of it at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neal.mccarthy/Dealey.htm if you want to see it.
As for the fake ledge, it's just something extending from the light pole. Looks like it might be a bracket, or a rolled-up banner or something similar.
JWK
Those are excellent pictures JW.
QUOTE (Chris Davidson @ Apr 19 2007, 12:36 AM)
QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 18 2007, 08:00 PM)
I just viewed most of the assassination films. I noticed something I didn't before and I never heard anyone mention it. And maybe it's the fault of the sunlight, but...
Many people believe there was another film being recorded besides the Zapruder film. Abraham Zapruder was a decoy. What he and Marilyn Sitzman were standing on was a very thin, flimsy section of wall; almost impossible to stand on it, 4 feet from the ground. I don't think you could stand on it with both feet. It would have to be one foot in front of the other. To add to this absurdity, Zapruder nursed a fear of heights. (The last told to me by a certain researcher.) Some Kennedy researchers believe they have seen the "real" film, made for the govt or intel or oil barons' pleasure, more or less. But where is the camera? Supposedly it is filmed at an angle not far from Zapruder. There's a theory that a tripod and cameraman were in the Pergola behind and to Zapruder's left. I have never seen proof of this. What I have seen ---
I went on youtube.com and watched the assassination films again. Except for the Z-film, I hadn't seen them for a long time. I noticed something and it may not amount to anything. In the Towner film, the camera on the South Knoll, opposite of where Zapruder was shows what looks to me to be night lights over -- I don't recall what it's called -- the arcade roof. This is the structure between the Grassy Knoll and the TBSD. These lights showed up on Towner, but on the Bell film, the camera swung over the arcade roof twice. The first time, they just weren't there. The next time, I swear, they were whited out. -- Now I could be wrong.
My thought is maybe one of them held a camera. Otherwise, why are they in Towner and not in Bell? Both films were taken feet away from each other, I could tell. And close in time. I'm sure someone knows more about this.
Another odd thing I noticed in the Hughes film. Frames I've seen show a whiting out via a fake "ledge" that has no reason to be there at the shooter's window. I've noticed another "ledge" on the TSBD in a different film, not any I viewed today. But in youtube's copy of Hughes, this white out doesn't exist.
But the main thing is the whereabouts of the camera. Has anyone seen this? Could it be those "lights"?
Kathy
Many people believe there was another film being recorded besides the Zapruder film. Abraham Zapruder was a decoy. What he and Marilyn Sitzman were standing on was a very thin, flimsy section of wall; almost impossible to stand on it, 4 feet from the ground. I don't think you could stand on it with both feet. It would have to be one foot in front of the other. To add to this absurdity, Zapruder nursed a fear of heights. (The last told to me by a certain researcher.) Some Kennedy researchers believe they have seen the "real" film, made for the govt or intel or oil barons' pleasure, more or less. But where is the camera? Supposedly it is filmed at an angle not far from Zapruder. There's a theory that a tripod and cameraman were in the Pergola behind and to Zapruder's left. I have never seen proof of this. What I have seen ---
I went on youtube.com and watched the assassination films again. Except for the Z-film, I hadn't seen them for a long time. I noticed something and it may not amount to anything. In the Towner film, the camera on the South Knoll, opposite of where Zapruder was shows what looks to me to be night lights over -- I don't recall what it's called -- the arcade roof. This is the structure between the Grassy Knoll and the TBSD. These lights showed up on Towner, but on the Bell film, the camera swung over the arcade roof twice. The first time, they just weren't there. The next time, I swear, they were whited out. -- Now I could be wrong.
My thought is maybe one of them held a camera. Otherwise, why are they in Towner and not in Bell? Both films were taken feet away from each other, I could tell. And close in time. I'm sure someone knows more about this.
Another odd thing I noticed in the Hughes film. Frames I've seen show a whiting out via a fake "ledge" that has no reason to be there at the shooter's window. I've noticed another "ledge" on the TSBD in a different film, not any I viewed today. But in youtube's copy of Hughes, this white out doesn't exist.
But the main thing is the whereabouts of the camera. Has anyone seen this? Could it be those "lights"?
Kathy
Hi Kathleen,
Can you provide any photos of the area you're describing?
Here are a couple that might help.
Let us know if my interpretation is wrong.
chris
Your interpretation is right. Those are the lights I was talking about, and the Hughes film I saw yesterday did not have that "drawing" on it. Could those lights hold a camera?
Kathy
QUOTE (J. William King @ Apr 19 2007, 06:41 AM)
QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 18 2007, 02:00 PM)
I just viewed most of the assassination films. I noticed something I didn't before and I never heard anyone mention it. And maybe it's the fault of the sunlight, but...
Many people believe there was another film being recorded besides the Zapruder film. Abraham Zapruder was a decoy. What he and Marilyn Sitzman were standing on was a very thin, flimsy section of wall; almost impossible to stand on it, 4 feet from the ground. I don't think you could stand on it with both feet. It would have to be one foot in front of the other. To add to this absurdity, Zapruder nursed a fear of heights. (The last told to me by a certain researcher.) Some Kennedy researchers believe they have seen the "real" film, made for the govt or intel or oil barons' pleasure, more or less. But where is the camera? Supposedly it is filmed at an angle not far from Zapruder. There's a theory that a tripod and cameraman were in the Pergola behind and to Zapruder's left. I have never seen proof of this. What I have seen ---
I went on youtube.com and watched the assassination films again. Except for the Z-film, I hadn't seen them for a long time. I noticed something and it may not amount to anything. In the Towner film, the camera on the South Knoll, opposite of where Zapruder was shows what looks to me to be night lights over -- I don't recall what it's called -- the arcade roof. This is the structure between the Grassy Knoll and the TBSD. These lights showed up on Towner, but on the Bell film, the camera swung over the arcade roof twice. The first time, they just weren't there. The next time, I swear, they were whited out. -- Now I could be wrong.
My thought is maybe one of them held a camera. Otherwise, why are they in Towner and not in Bell? Both films were taken feet away from each other, I could tell. And close in time. I'm sure someone knows more about this.
Another odd thing I noticed in the Hughes film. Frames I've seen show a whiting out via a fake "ledge" that has no reason to be there at the shooter's window. I've noticed another "ledge" on the TSBD in a different film, not any I viewed today. But in youtube's copy of Hughes, this white out doesn't exist.
But the main thing is the whereabouts of the camera. Has anyone seen this? Could it be those "lights"?
Kathy
Many people believe there was another film being recorded besides the Zapruder film. Abraham Zapruder was a decoy. What he and Marilyn Sitzman were standing on was a very thin, flimsy section of wall; almost impossible to stand on it, 4 feet from the ground. I don't think you could stand on it with both feet. It would have to be one foot in front of the other. To add to this absurdity, Zapruder nursed a fear of heights. (The last told to me by a certain researcher.) Some Kennedy researchers believe they have seen the "real" film, made for the govt or intel or oil barons' pleasure, more or less. But where is the camera? Supposedly it is filmed at an angle not far from Zapruder. There's a theory that a tripod and cameraman were in the Pergola behind and to Zapruder's left. I have never seen proof of this. What I have seen ---
I went on youtube.com and watched the assassination films again. Except for the Z-film, I hadn't seen them for a long time. I noticed something and it may not amount to anything. In the Towner film, the camera on the South Knoll, opposite of where Zapruder was shows what looks to me to be night lights over -- I don't recall what it's called -- the arcade roof. This is the structure between the Grassy Knoll and the TBSD. These lights showed up on Towner, but on the Bell film, the camera swung over the arcade roof twice. The first time, they just weren't there. The next time, I swear, they were whited out. -- Now I could be wrong.
My thought is maybe one of them held a camera. Otherwise, why are they in Towner and not in Bell? Both films were taken feet away from each other, I could tell. And close in time. I'm sure someone knows more about this.
Another odd thing I noticed in the Hughes film. Frames I've seen show a whiting out via a fake "ledge" that has no reason to be there at the shooter's window. I've noticed another "ledge" on the TSBD in a different film, not any I viewed today. But in youtube's copy of Hughes, this white out doesn't exist.
But the main thing is the whereabouts of the camera. Has anyone seen this? Could it be those "lights"?
Kathy
With all due respect, Kathy, I've stood on that perch and there's nothing "thin or flimsy" about it. There are a couple of pictures of it at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neal.mccarthy/Dealey.htm if you want to see it.
As for the fake ledge, it's just something extending from the light pole. Looks like it might be a bracket, or a rolled-up banner or something similar.
JWK
I guess I saw a misleading photo of where Zapruder stood. You took some beautiful photos of Dealey Plaza. As for the ledge, I still think it was painted on to hide something.
Did those lights hold a camera?
Kathy
QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 19 2007, 05:40 AM)
QUOTE (J. William King @ Apr 19 2007, 06:41 AM)
QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 18 2007, 02:00 PM)
I just viewed most of the assassination films. I noticed something I didn't before and I never heard anyone mention it. And maybe it's the fault of the sunlight, but...
Many people believe there was another film being recorded besides the Zapruder film. Abraham Zapruder was a decoy. What he and Marilyn Sitzman were standing on was a very thin, flimsy section of wall; almost impossible to stand on it, 4 feet from the ground. I don't think you could stand on it with both feet. It would have to be one foot in front of the other. To add to this absurdity, Zapruder nursed a fear of heights. (The last told to me by a certain researcher.) Some Kennedy researchers believe they have seen the "real" film, made for the govt or intel or oil barons' pleasure, more or less. But where is the camera? Supposedly it is filmed at an angle not far from Zapruder. There's a theory that a tripod and cameraman were in the Pergola behind and to Zapruder's left. I have never seen proof of this. What I have seen ---
I went on youtube.com and watched the assassination films again. Except for the Z-film, I hadn't seen them for a long time. I noticed something and it may not amount to anything. In the Towner film, the camera on the South Knoll, opposite of where Zapruder was shows what looks to me to be night lights over -- I don't recall what it's called -- the arcade roof. This is the structure between the Grassy Knoll and the TBSD. These lights showed up on Towner, but on the Bell film, the camera swung over the arcade roof twice. The first time, they just weren't there. The next time, I swear, they were whited out. -- Now I could be wrong.
My thought is maybe one of them held a camera. Otherwise, why are they in Towner and not in Bell? Both films were taken feet away from each other, I could tell. And close in time. I'm sure someone knows more about this.
Another odd thing I noticed in the Hughes film. Frames I've seen show a whiting out via a fake "ledge" that has no reason to be there at the shooter's window. I've noticed another "ledge" on the TSBD in a different film, not any I viewed today. But in youtube's copy of Hughes, this white out doesn't exist.
But the main thing is the whereabouts of the camera. Has anyone seen this? Could it be those "lights"?
Kathy
Many people believe there was another film being recorded besides the Zapruder film. Abraham Zapruder was a decoy. What he and Marilyn Sitzman were standing on was a very thin, flimsy section of wall; almost impossible to stand on it, 4 feet from the ground. I don't think you could stand on it with both feet. It would have to be one foot in front of the other. To add to this absurdity, Zapruder nursed a fear of heights. (The last told to me by a certain researcher.) Some Kennedy researchers believe they have seen the "real" film, made for the govt or intel or oil barons' pleasure, more or less. But where is the camera? Supposedly it is filmed at an angle not far from Zapruder. There's a theory that a tripod and cameraman were in the Pergola behind and to Zapruder's left. I have never seen proof of this. What I have seen ---
I went on youtube.com and watched the assassination films again. Except for the Z-film, I hadn't seen them for a long time. I noticed something and it may not amount to anything. In the Towner film, the camera on the South Knoll, opposite of where Zapruder was shows what looks to me to be night lights over -- I don't recall what it's called -- the arcade roof. This is the structure between the Grassy Knoll and the TBSD. These lights showed up on Towner, but on the Bell film, the camera swung over the arcade roof twice. The first time, they just weren't there. The next time, I swear, they were whited out. -- Now I could be wrong.
My thought is maybe one of them held a camera. Otherwise, why are they in Towner and not in Bell? Both films were taken feet away from each other, I could tell. And close in time. I'm sure someone knows more about this.
Another odd thing I noticed in the Hughes film. Frames I've seen show a whiting out via a fake "ledge" that has no reason to be there at the shooter's window. I've noticed another "ledge" on the TSBD in a different film, not any I viewed today. But in youtube's copy of Hughes, this white out doesn't exist.
But the main thing is the whereabouts of the camera. Has anyone seen this? Could it be those "lights"?
Kathy
With all due respect, Kathy, I've stood on that perch and there's nothing "thin or flimsy" about it. There are a couple of pictures of it at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neal.mccarthy/Dealey.htm if you want to see it.
As for the fake ledge, it's just something extending from the light pole. Looks like it might be a bracket, or a rolled-up banner or something similar.
JWK
I guess I saw a misleading photo of where Zapruder stood. You took some beautiful photos of Dealey Plaza. As for the ledge, I still think it was painted on to hide something.
Did those lights hold a camera?
Kathy
While I would love to take credit for those pictures, they are not mine. I just did a Google search for "Abraham Zapruder perch" and that is what popped up. I agree, however. They are excellent photos.
JWK
Will someone address the lights. Could a camera be in one or more of those lights?
Kathy
Kathy
QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 20 2007, 01:05 PM)
Will someone address the lights. Could a camera be in one or more of those lights?
Kathy
Kathy
There is another light on the pole across the street.
Personaly i don't beleive the light had a camera mounted IN it, or ON it.
That's just my point of view. !
Click to view attachment
QUOTE (Robin Unger @ Apr 20 2007, 12:50 PM)
QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 20 2007, 01:05 PM)
Will someone address the lights. Could a camera be in one or more of those lights?
Kathy
Kathy
There is another light on the pole across the street.
Personaly i don't beleive the light had a camera mounted IN it, or ON it.
That's just my point of view. !
Click to view attachment
Robin, I couldn't see your attached photo. I don't know why. I've asked Andy to look into why I can see some photos but not all. Anyway, I was just on what I believe is your site, and I saw this photo. The 'lights" certainly look different now after the assassination.
http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/LastScan56_1.jpg
Kathy
QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 21 2007, 02:39 AM)
QUOTE (Robin Unger @ Apr 20 2007, 12:50 PM)
QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 20 2007, 01:05 PM)
Will someone address the lights. Could a camera be in one or more of those lights?
Kathy
Kathy
There is another light on the pole across the street.
Personaly i don't beleive the light had a camera mounted IN it, or ON it.
That's just my point of view. !
Click to view attachment
Robin, I couldn't see your attached photo. I don't know why. I've asked Andy to look into why I can see some photos but not all. Anyway, I was just on what I believe is your site, and I saw this photo. The 'lights" certainly look different now after the assassination.
http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/LastScan56_1.jpg
Kathy
There are no lights on this structure post assassiation. This is something suspicious. Do they look different from different perspectives, like if a photog is on higher ground? Or further away?
http://jfk.fotopic.net/p37002821.html
Kathy
QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 21 2007, 03:02 AM)
QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 21 2007, 02:39 AM)
QUOTE (Robin Unger @ Apr 20 2007, 12:50 PM)
QUOTE (Kathleen Collins @ Apr 20 2007, 01:05 PM)
Will someone address the lights. Could a camera be in one or more of those lights?
Kathy
Kathy
There is another light on the pole across the street.
Personaly i don't beleive the light had a camera mounted IN it, or ON it.
That's just my point of view. !
Click to view attachment
Robin, I couldn't see your attached photo. I don't know why. I've asked Andy to look into why I can see some photos but not all. Anyway, I was just on what I believe is your site, and I saw this photo. The 'lights" certainly look different now after the assassination.
http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/LastScan56_1.jpg
Kathy
There are no lights on this structure post assassiation. This is something suspicious. Do they look different from different perspectives, like if a photog is on higher ground? Or further away?
http://jfk.fotopic.net/p37002821.html
Kathy
These objects that look like lights are very prominent in the Towner film but not in the photos. What's going on? They are definitely there. And they were excised from the photos.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=B2xPN_7eT9g
Kathy
They are not lights, I believe they are what is shown below, at a distance in the parking lot.
Chris you nailed it........
The Towner,Tina I believe it is, film was taken from the other side of the TSBD..on Elm.
close to the curb.
You can see these, in some of the photos, all depends in what position they were in when
they took the film or photo and at what angle.
I forget what it was called, someone ?? it was to do with the RR trains and such..and switching
I think..?.I cannot,
find the clear, I believe it is a Murray photo, of the parking lot......Just this with previous
research in the corner, but
you can see them clearly, and if you compare them with what you see in the Towner, I do
not have that particular frame, you will see I believe they are exactly the same.
Robin or Chris do you have this Murray clear, and perhaps the Towner frame where they are shown,
to clarify and compare for all..?..thanks.
You can see whatever in the Cabluck below, in the distance through the Perola wall.Where the boy
is seen running on the sidewalk. Also in the distance of where you see the man running across
Main St.....behind the cyclist...the RR thingamajig....
B
Chris you nailed it........
The Towner,Tina I believe it is, film was taken from the other side of the TSBD..on Elm.
close to the curb.
You can see these, in some of the photos, all depends in what position they were in when
they took the film or photo and at what angle.
I forget what it was called, someone ?? it was to do with the RR trains and such..and switching
I think..?.I cannot,
find the clear, I believe it is a Murray photo, of the parking lot......Just this with previous
research in the corner, but
you can see them clearly, and if you compare them with what you see in the Towner, I do
not have that particular frame, you will see I believe they are exactly the same.
Robin or Chris do you have this Murray clear, and perhaps the Towner frame where they are shown,
to clarify and compare for all..?..thanks.
You can see whatever in the Cabluck below, in the distance through the Perola wall.Where the boy
is seen running on the sidewalk. Also in the distance of where you see the man running across
Main St.....behind the cyclist...the RR thingamajig....
B
quote:
Robin, I couldn't see your attached photo. I don't know why. I've asked Andy to look into why I can see some photos but not all. Anyway, I was just on what I believe is your site, and I saw this photo. The 'lights" certainly look different now after the assassination.
Kathy.
If you can't see the images, send me your email address, and i will email the photo to you.
Here you go Bernice
There appears to be (3) Signal lights on the Tower, similar to Stop Lights on the roads.
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Robin, I couldn't see your attached photo. I don't know why. I've asked Andy to look into why I can see some photos but not all. Anyway, I was just on what I believe is your site, and I saw this photo. The 'lights" certainly look different now after the assassination.
Kathy.
If you can't see the images, send me your email address, and i will email the photo to you.
Here you go Bernice
There appears to be (3) Signal lights on the Tower, similar to Stop Lights on the roads.
Click to view attachment
Full size Version of the Carpark Image from my Website:
http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/LastSca...park_Larger.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/LastSca...park_Larger.jpg
QUOTE (Robin Unger @ Apr 21 2007, 04:05 PM)
Full size Version of the Carpark Image from my Website:
http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/LastSca...park_Larger.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/LastSca...park_Larger.jpg
Many thanks to Robin & Bernice for photos! Excellent.
Can anyone (Robin or Bernice) give a copy or link (and time stamp?) for the full photo seen in the inset as seen in this photo? Thanks:
QUOTE (Miles Scull @ Apr 22 2007, 01:55 AM)
QUOTE (Robin Unger @ Apr 21 2007, 04:05 PM)
Full size Version of the Carpark Image from my Website:
http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/LastSca...park_Larger.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/LastSca...park_Larger.jpg
Many thanks to Robin & Bernice for photos! Excellent.
Can anyone (Robin or Bernice) give a copy or link (and time stamp?) for the full photo seen in the inset as seen in this photo? Thanks:
Miles.
The photo below is dated 1968 it looks very similar to the small Black and White crop.
Click to view attachment
QUOTE (Robin Unger @ Apr 21 2007, 07:23 PM)
QUOTE (Miles Scull @ Apr 22 2007, 01:55 AM)
QUOTE (Robin Unger @ Apr 21 2007, 04:05 PM)
Full size Version of the Carpark Image from my Website:
http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/LastSca...park_Larger.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/LastSca...park_Larger.jpg
Many thanks to Robin & Bernice for photos! Excellent.
Can anyone (Robin or Bernice) give a copy or link (and time stamp?) for the full photo seen in the inset as seen in this photo? Thanks:
Miles.
The photo below is dated 1968 it looks very similar to the small Black and White crop.
Click to view attachment
Ah, yes, there it is! Thx, Robin.
Bernice,
I believe this shows both within the same photo.
chris
I believe this shows both within the same photo.
chris
QUOTE (Bernice Moore @ Apr 21 2007, 08:19 AM)
They are not lights, I believe they are what is shown below, at a distance in the parking lot.
Chris you nailed it........
The Towner,Tina I believe it is, film was taken from the other side of the TSBD..on Elm.
close to the curb.
You can see these, in some of the photos, all depends in what position they were in when
they took the film or photo and at what angle.
I forget what it was called, someone ?? it was to do with the RR trains and such..and switching
I think..?.I cannot,
find the clear, I believe it is a Murray photo, of the parking lot......Just this with previous
research in the corner, but
you can see them clearly, and if you compare them with what you see in the Towner, I do
not have that particular frame, you will see I believe they are exactly the same.
Robin or Chris do you have this Murray clear, and perhaps the Towner frame where they are shown,
to clarify and compare for all..?..thanks.
You can see whatever in the Cabluck below, in the distance through the Perola wall.Where the boy
is seen running on the sidewalk. Also in the distance of where you see the man running across
Main St.....behind the cyclist...the RR thingamajig....
B
Chris you nailed it........
The Towner,Tina I believe it is, film was taken from the other side of the TSBD..on Elm.
close to the curb.
You can see these, in some of the photos, all depends in what position they were in when
they took the film or photo and at what angle.
I forget what it was called, someone ?? it was to do with the RR trains and such..and switching
I think..?.I cannot,
find the clear, I believe it is a Murray photo, of the parking lot......Just this with previous
research in the corner, but
you can see them clearly, and if you compare them with what you see in the Towner, I do
not have that particular frame, you will see I believe they are exactly the same.
Robin or Chris do you have this Murray clear, and perhaps the Towner frame where they are shown,
to clarify and compare for all..?..thanks.
You can see whatever in the Cabluck below, in the distance through the Perola wall.Where the boy
is seen running on the sidewalk. Also in the distance of where you see the man running across
Main St.....behind the cyclist...the RR thingamajig....
B
Thanks, Bernice. One mystery solved today.
Kathy
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